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  • Sept. 16, 2009 1:08 p.m. Nashco SuperDork

    Thanks Phil! (Yes, I remember you)

    I haven't made time to post pictures lately because I've been swamped. Progress has been a bit slower than I had hoped it would be over the last week or so due to lots of reasons. Oh well, I keep my nose to the grindstone and do the best I can...the car has to be at the transporter on Friday so I'm really running up against the deadline, as usual. Several big projects are about 90% done and I'm hoping to finish those up tonight. It doesn't look like I'll have time to post pictures and more detailed updates until Friday or Saturday, after the car is dropped off. Very little of the work we're doing now was "required" but we're trying to improve the car as much as possible before the big show, can't disappoint our fans!

    Jessica has been a huge help again this week doing tons of detailing. She's getting pretty good with a rattle can! The Fiero had lots of black trim pieces that were a bit worse for wear, but a can of half price "trim paint" (that we got at a hardware store that was closing it's doors) and several hours of her attention to detail has all of the trim looking fantastic. This is yet another thing that most people won't notice when seeing the car for the first time, but having it all look fresh instead of having chipped/peeling/faded paint is a dramatic difference. Another example where time is a big investment, but for only a few bucks the car looks MUCH better.

    The interior has been getting thoroughly detailed too. Based on some comments we got in San Diego, we've decided to put most of the stock interior back in the car. This means regluing the (typically saggy GM) headliner and trimming some stuff around the battery boxes. We're probably going to leave the carpet out. It doesn't look too bad with it out (and floor mats in) and the carpet on this car is VERY heavy, probably 30 pounds. Surprising for such a small car, but it's really nice stuff with a thick backing material, probably to help with noise insulation. Jessica is also doing most of the interior work, I guess one of the (very) few perks to her unemployment is that when I'm REALLY pinched for time she can step up and help out.

    The wiring is coming along nicely. I tested things out on Monday night after I'd cut and spliced a bunch of wires for the EV system and things still worked normally...thank goodness! I have a few more details to re-wire like lights, wipers, etc. under the front hood, then I'll finally be done with under-hood wiring. Since everybody seems to think there's so many wires for the EV system when they've seen it, I'm going to great lengths to change that opinion. The EV system actually has fewer wires than the gas powertrain, so it makes my life a bit easier in trying to hide the wires.

    I'm still struggling on what to do with tires. The car is currently wearing some mismatched all-seasons. I have some used up RT615s from a LeMons car that would be free to the challenge budget, but they're arguably not much better than all-seasons with tread and I'll probably have to pay to get them mounted (and of course my budget is getting tight). A coworker has a tire machine, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to get his help before Friday for free mounting. I'm thinking I should ask Jessica to dress up in her cutest outfit and send her to the local yokel tire shop to see what the bottom dollar is for mounting, she's got free tire patches there in the past so it's worth a shot.

    Everybody says to put the best tires on that you can afford in the budget...I wish I could track down some of those free/near-free autocross tires that I am always hearing about with challengers!

    Bryce

  • Gotsol

    Sept. 16, 2009 2:02 p.m. Gotsol New Reader

    keep up the great pace! I can't wait to see how this thing does

  • DILYSI Dave

    Sept. 16, 2009 2:09 p.m. DILYSI Dave UltimaDork

    Nashco wrote:

    I wish I could track down some of those free/near-free autocross tires that I am always hearing about with challengers!

    What size rims?

  • Sept. 16, 2009 2:15 p.m. Nashco SuperDork

    DILYSI Dave wrote:

    Nashco wrote:

    I wish I could track down some of those free/near-free autocross tires that I am always hearing about with challengers!

    What size rims?

    The car currently has 15x6 fronts and 15x7 rears (stock stuff for the '88 Fiero).

    Bryce

  • alfadriver

    Sept. 16, 2009 2:51 p.m. alfadriver HalfDork

    Nashco wrote:

    DILYSI Dave wrote:

    Nashco wrote:

    I wish I could track down some of those free/near-free autocross tires that I am always hearing about with challengers!

    What size rims?

    The car currently has 15x6 fronts and 15x7 rears (stock stuff for the '88 Fiero).

    Bryce

    AKA- 205- 15. They fit perfect on the 7's, close enough on the 6's.

    You don't have any budget left, right, Bryce? And you are flying to Florida, too, right?

    (just filling in the info- the set I could donate are corded, are just are used to move a car around)

    E-

  • DILYSI Dave

    Sept. 16, 2009 4:00 p.m. DILYSI Dave UltimaDork

    I've got a set of not great but not-yet-dead Hoosier A6's in 225/45/15 that I can send down with the Hongs if they don't mind. I tried to get $100 for them locally but couldn't. I'll trade them for a 12 of your favorite beer.

    They will be a little pinched on the 7" rims. They will fit on the 6", but the tire guy will hate you.

  • AngryCorvair

    Sept. 16, 2009 4:47 p.m. AngryCorvair SuperDork

    i also have a set of 225/45-15 A6's, currently on early 944 phone dials but i'd dismount them for you. can deliver to challenge, will charge you only eleven of your favorite beer, which is a substantial discount over dilysi dave's offer.

  • Sept. 16, 2009 5:26 p.m. Nashco SuperDork

    Hmm...very interesting guys, thanks for the offers (Dave, do you price match? JUST KIDDING!). I've never had that much tire on a 6" rim, I wonder if you could even get a flat-ish contact patch. In any case, it would probably still be better in the autocross than the all seasons I've got now. Anybody in the Gainesville area know of any uber-cheap tire shops? I'll punch some numbers into my budget tonight to update the latest progress on the car and see exactly what I can afford.

    Bryce

  • MrJoshua

    Sept. 16, 2009 6:34 p.m. MrJoshua SuperDork

    We had that size on a second gen rx7 challenger with a 6" stock rim. Worked rather well. 8th place raw time in autocross.

  • P71

    Sept. 16, 2009 9:04 p.m. P71 SuperDork

    Most factory 225 tires are mounted on 7" wheels, so a 6" shouldn't be too bad (depending on the actual width of the tire).

    Do you have the big ole GRM numberplates?

  • KurtAKX

    Sept. 16, 2009 10:00 p.m. KurtAKX None

    AngryCorvair wrote:

    i also have a set of 225/45-15 A6's, currently on early 944 phone dials but i'd dismount them for you. can deliver to challenge, will charge you only eleven of your favorite beer, which is a substantial discount over dilysi dave's offer.

    Hey PC, supporting the Fiero commnunity I see.

    Nashco, go get 'em in Florida!

  • Sept. 17, 2009 1:15 p.m. Nashco SuperDork

    P71 wrote:

    Do you have the big ole GRM numberplates?

    Nope...I was running under the assumption that all the stickers I need to run were provided at the challenge.

    Bryce

  • Tom Heath

    Sept. 17, 2009 1:46 p.m. Tom Heath Marketing / Club Coordinator

    Nashco wrote:

    P71 wrote:

    Do you have the big ole GRM numberplates?

    Nope...I was running under the assumption that all the stickers I need to run were provided at the challenge.

    Bryce

    Don't worry, we've got them for you here in Florida. Can't wait to check this one out!

  • P71

    Sept. 17, 2009 2:12 p.m. P71 SuperDork

    Ah, ok. I wasn't sure how the sticker thing worked and I have a spare set of BRM numberboards here.

  • AngryCorvair

    Sept. 17, 2009 6:05 p.m. AngryCorvair SuperDork

    KurtAKX wrote:

    AngryCorvair wrote:

    i also have a set of 225/45-15 A6's, currently on early 944 phone dials but i'd dismount them for you. can deliver to challenge, will charge you only eleven of your favorite beer, which is a substantial discount over dilysi dave's offer.

    Hey PC, supporting the Fiero commnunity I see.

    Nashco, go get 'em in Florida!

    Kurt, it's about time you got on here!

  • KurtAKX

    Sept. 18, 2009 9:26 p.m. KurtAKX New Reader

    In reply to AngryCorvair:

    What can I say, long time listener, first-time caller.

    Nashco, sent you 25 via paypal, to help. Would have sent more but I've been out of work since May 15 2009.

  • spin_out

    Sept. 19, 2009 7:47 a.m. spin_out New Reader

    I too would have sent more, but I have to compete against him. :)

    Looking forward to seeing the car in person.
    I hope he is able to compete on R-compounds.
    (It probably gets hard to stay on budget when you could really use 4 drag slicks and 4 autocross tires.)

  • InigoMontoya

    Sept. 19, 2009 3:13 p.m. InigoMontoya Reader

    The 225s should work fine, there is a local miata guy here running on 15x6 inch rims with A6s, they are not as flat as the 205s, but would be better than all seasons.

  • Sept. 19, 2009 6:23 p.m. Nashco SuperDork

    Well, the Fiero is officially out of my hands. I dropped it off at the transporter yesterday...I sure hope it makes it without a hitch. More updates soon...

    Bryce

  • Sept. 19, 2009 8:11 p.m. HIDGolf New Reader

    I'm stoked, Bryce!

  • Pat

    Sept. 19, 2009 8:37 p.m. Pat New Reader

    Very cool. See you down there.

  • Sept. 20, 2009 3:51 a.m. Nashco SuperDork

    As promised, time for more updates with pictures.

    As mentioned earlier, we've fabbed up a battery box out of HVAC sheetmetal, so it's pretty cheap stuff and is fairly easy to form. Aaron did most of the sheet metal work on the battery box, I can't take credit for it.


    One of the many interior pieces we had previously stripped out was the headliner, which was sagging in typical 80's GM fashion. Jessica fixed this, very cleverly considering she had absolutely zero guidance. First she removed the foam backing which had deteriorated so that the cloth and cardboard would get as good of a bond as possible. She pinned the headliner to the cardboard at the two mirror mounting locations to keep the cloth in the same spot as it was originally, then laid down a layer of spray can glue and stuck things together as necessary. As you can see, the time has paid off as this headliner looks pretty dang good for an original 80's GM headliner!


    Some more of Jessica's handywork, freshly repainted engine vents. The half-price trim paint we got has really come in handy, the stuff looks spot on to how it was supposed to look out of the factory.


    This is what we've used for most of the "restoration" work we've done, all half priced stuff from a GI Joe's that was closing down. GI Joe's - great idea, poor execution. It was a camping/hunting/automotive/sports store. Basically, a man zone. RIP GI Joe's. I've been really impressed with the VHT paint and the trim paint. We've had to lay it on a bit thin to stretch the can (for budget reasons) but it is still holding up pretty well considering the car has almost 3000 miles on it since we first sprayed it and the finishes are exactly as we'd hope for. These nozzles also work well, so it's an all around good deal.


    Not the greatest picture, but here's a shot showing the recently detailed/repaired/repainted trim pieces. Lots of little stuff that all adds up like the air dam, mirror, quarter window (sail panel, in the Fiero world), door handles, surround trim, front emblem, wheels, etc.


    Jessica is slowly getting used to the "point of no return" mods, this was her first power tool to car part experience like that. Sure, it's only a dremel, but we all started somewhere, right? Here she's modifying the center console so it can fit around our new battery pack.


    I was so proud of my new EV cooling tubes that Jessica made me model them. The black ones are freshly painted and ready to install, the silver ones are what I started with. The tubes were only a buck each from another closing store, Linens and Things I think...not nearly as impacting as GI Joes but still good for something! I bent the tubes with my Harbor Freight pipe bender, it's not good for much but it was good enough for this job!


    Over the last few nights before the truck was shipped out, we were consuming copious amounts of caffeine. Healthy, I'm sure...thank goodness it's only during crunch time! This was just from our last night of excitement:


    Yuck! I don't know how people drink this stuff every day, but during times like these it is the nectar of the gods! Oh yeah, and lack of sleep had us a bit loopy too. Jessica was having a little too much fun...I guess if she wanted a mustache, at least she wanted a classy mustache? She wore this mustache for at least a half hour, I couldn't stop giggling. Perhaps you had to be there.


    Not much to say here, I've been showing you the "how it's made" shots all along, here's what the under-hood looks like now (note the lack of wire explosion in the under hood and interior):


    Exterior shot:


    Interior shot:


    We still have a few more things we are working on, of course, but that's all I've got to show for now. We're happy with how much more we got done this week, but of course there's ALWAYS more to be done. I hope it shows up to Florida in good shape!

    Bryce

  • Sept. 20, 2009 10:05 a.m. HIDGolf New Reader

    Fantastic Jessica and Bryce! The headliner looks great! Nice to see your graduation gift is still being put to good use!

  • Sept. 20, 2009 10:15 a.m. blizazer New Reader

    Wow, its looking much better than it did in San Diego, good work guys!

    I'm looking forward to seeing it in action again in Florida.

  • KurtAKX

    Sept. 20, 2009 11:36 a.m. KurtAKX New Reader

    In reply to Nashco:

    You left at least $100 in the budget! I spy a dash with uncracked vent corners (jealous) and a 120mph speedo that could be swapped out to yield a little extra cash should it become necessary.

    Good luck, again!

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