Duke
MegaDork
7/29/19 10:03 a.m.
I don't care what revenue they allegedly provide to specialty car makers.
The hell-spawned SUV / coupe crossover segment cannot die a quick enough death to satisfy me.
Massive SUV exterior size combined with seriously restricted interior space? Check.
Sports sedan handling compromised by pointless ride height? Check.
Cayenne Coupe, BMW X6, Mercedes GLC, whatever else - I hate every single one of these vehicles, from every manufacturer.
No surprises there. If I was shopping for a Porsche, it would be the Cayenne, but I'd wish it was a little larger.
Edit: The market for toys will always be small. Enthusiasts should embrace the fact that Porsche manufactures vehicles that real families can use as that enables them to continue to offer 2-seat sports cars for recreational use. You can't have one without the other.
According to Porsche, Macan is Indonesian for Tiger.
Flynlow
HalfDork
7/29/19 10:20 a.m.
Do they combine sales numbers with the audi Q3? (snicker)
Im glad it allows sports car makers the revenue to keep their good cars alive, but i share Dukes sentiment about looking forward to the CUV segment's demise. Based on wagons, then minivans, it should be about the time the next generation becomes parents and their predecessors tastes become "uncool".
I understand why they are doing it (as made obvious by the sales numbers), I just wish they had created some sort of related sub-group to badge the non-sports cars.
Obviously, the appeal of their SUV's to many, is heavily influenced by the badge.
Many years ago I was at the Porsche factory and was taken to lunch by one of the department heads at the employee canteen ,
His big push was the SUVs as it gave Porsche a good income so they had money to develop the 911 and Race shop ,
Same as the Boxster got the Porsche name back out in the public with a lower priced sports car.
I guess the same could be said with most of the car companies , without SUVs and Pick Ups where would they be ?
Duke said:
I don't care what revenue they allegedly provide to specialty car makers.
The hell-spawned SUV / coupe crossover segment cannot die a quick enough death to satisfy me.
Massive SUV exterior size combined with seriously restricted interior space? Check.
Sports sedan handling compromised by pointless ride height? Check.
Cayenne Coupe, BMW X6, Mercedes GLC, whatever else - I hate every single one of these vehicles, from every manufacturer.
I think they're ugly and disgusting.. But they continue to have fantastic profitability and they continue to allow MFR's to build the stuff we love.
Mazdeuce and I have had multiple conversations about this.
For every cayenne and Macan and panamera they make with a stupid profit margin they can invest in a project with little or no ROI.
Duke said:
I don't care what revenue they allegedly provide to specialty car makers.
The hell-spawned SUV / coupe crossover segment cannot die a quick enough death to satisfy me.
Massive SUV exterior size combined with seriously restricted interior space? Check.
Sports sedan handling compromised by pointless ride height? Check.
Cayenne Coupe, BMW X6, Mercedes GLC, whatever else - I hate every single one of these vehicles, from every manufacturer.
Good thing there are those of us out there that rather drive the things you hate rather than a minivan or wagon. And you wont be forced to drive a CUV as there's money made from them for other types of vehicles to be produced and driven by you. So, we all win. Don't wish the quick demise of the financer of our cool things. That's selfish sir! I want my Macan and 911 too!
Cooter
SuperDork
7/29/19 11:00 a.m.
I just never understand why automotive "enthusiasts" love to hate vehicles that other people love.
There are plenty of vehicles that don't appeal to me, but if it has wheels and is able to be driven, I usually can see the appeal in it.