Wow that was fast. Not a surprise at all but fast lol.
Photography Credit: Andy Hollis
The SCCA today announced the exclusion of the Vitour Tempesta P1 from both its Time Trials and Solo programs in categories where tires are restricted to 200tw.
Citing both member and media testing results, the Time Trials Board declared the outsized performance of the P1 to be “inconsistent with the philosophy of Sport, Tuner and Max classes.” The tire is also excluded where it would otherwise be compliant via “also allowed” rulesets.
The Solo Events Board took a slightly different approach in their exclusion, noting the absence of “sufficient information regarding performance, size availability and schedule of importation,” while describing Vitour as a “low volume, niche manufacturer.”
With the January 1, 2024, eligibility deadline looming, this puts to rest any sort of last-minute actions to gain acceptance and maintains the current status quo in top performing tires for at least another year.
The SEB did leave the door open for future consideration saying, “These tires may be removed from the exclusion list when that information becomes available, if all other conditions of 13.3 are met”
Just how fast is the Vitour Tempesta P1? Read our track test story here: Is the Vitour Tempesta P1 today’s must-have 200tw tire?
Wow that was fast. Not a surprise at all but fast lol.
I wonder if that might force the price of current inventory down.........you know for Challenge reasons.
In reply to DeadSkunk (Warren) :
I'm thinking this might be a Michelin PSC2 competitor (for people who want dual-duty tires and don't care if they're SCCA-legal) so probably not.
sounds like it's time for TW to become more of a standard rating across all brands and manufacturers should voluntary offer to re-certify every so many years. This might allow the NT01 to be bumped up to a 200TW since it really isn't any faster than the goodyear SC3 which is a 220tw but is not legal for SCCA time trials because of it's 110tw rating. It might also allow the Hankook RS/4 which is a much harder wearing tires than it's 200tw to get a higher rating indicating its non-competitive but highly practical use for lap day folks who don't care about the absoulute fastest lap time.
sammy gonna be pisssssssssssssssssssssssssed
So might be on sale later you're saying...
ClearWaterMS said:sounds like it's time for TW to become more of a standard rating across all brands and manufacturers should voluntary offer to re-certify every so many years. This might allow the NT01 to be bumped up to a 200TW since it really isn't any faster than the goodyear SC3 which is a 220tw but is not legal for SCCA time trials because of it's 110tw rating. It might also allow the Hankook RS/4 which is a much harder wearing tires than it's 200tw to get a higher rating indicating its non-competitive but highly practical use for lap day folks who don't care about the absoulute fastest lap time.
You know manufacturers can do all of that already, right?
As someone who buys Hoosiers I find this issue novel (note Hoosier is the only company that makes the tire I need for both cars).
dps214 said:ClearWaterMS said:sounds like it's time for TW to become more of a standard rating across all brands and manufacturers should voluntary offer to re-certify every so many years. This might allow the NT01 to be bumped up to a 200TW since it really isn't any faster than the goodyear SC3 which is a 220tw but is not legal for SCCA time trials because of it's 110tw rating. It might also allow the Hankook RS/4 which is a much harder wearing tires than it's 200tw to get a higher rating indicating its non-competitive but highly practical use for lap day folks who don't care about the absoulute fastest lap time.
You know manufacturers can do all of that already, right?
Yep...this.
Manufacturers are allowed to "derate" a tire's treadwear to suit their own marketing purposes. Lots of older, slow 100tw tires carry that marking because it leads people to believe they are sticky. Marketing is an amazing thing.
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dps214 said:ClearWaterMS said:sounds like it's time for TW to become more of a standard rating across all brands and manufacturers should voluntary offer to re-certify every so many years. This might allow the NT01 to be bumped up to a 200TW since it really isn't any faster than the goodyear SC3 which is a 220tw but is not legal for SCCA time trials because of it's 110tw rating. It might also allow the Hankook RS/4 which is a much harder wearing tires than it's 200tw to get a higher rating indicating its non-competitive but highly practical use for lap day folks who don't care about the absoulute fastest lap time.
You know manufacturers can do all of that already, right?
I was under the impression that different manufacturers measured TW differently leading different tires having different characteristics and wearing at different rates.
The Hankook RS/4 vs the RE71 is a perfect example of two different tires that if you put the same tire size on the same car with the same driver one will last alot longer and wear slower.
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