Nwirtanen
Nwirtanen
3/30/23 8:11 a.m.

 

Hello! Long time lurker, first time poster. I really love the spirit of this forum and all the projects here. 

So I have driven a 206 Peugeot GTi as my daily for a few years now, done all kinds of street mods to it but now it's time to retire this car from the street and get crazy. I am building a roll cage/tube frame and fitting a motorcycle engine to power the rear wheels.  

Something I have been wondering is the engine location. First option was to build a sprocket differential so the engine would sit transverse, somewhat center. Then I thought of mounting it longitudinal so I could make a driveshaft from the front sprocket. Then I imagined a chain driven drive shaft so I could mount the engine perfectly center longitudinally but now I have thought about this too much and I just can't make up my mind... 

 

Any help? Opinions? I have designed some crazy aero for this car and potentially a electrically driven front axle later on. Weight distribution and packaging is key here, I will build a custom back end for the car with custom suspension so all kinds of crazy ideas are welcome. 

 

English is not my first language so sorry if this is hard to read.

TurboFource
TurboFource Reader
3/30/23 8:23 a.m.

Welcome and post lots of pics! Your English is fine! 
 

Not sure on which engine orientation is best ...certainly longitudinal with chain drive would be lighter and easier to change final drive ratios!

Nwirtanen
Nwirtanen New Reader
3/30/23 1:39 p.m.

Nwirtanen
Nwirtanen New Reader
3/30/23 1:45 p.m.

Here is a rough design sketch. Basically I want to build a single seater with ye olde Peugeot body on top. Lots of design and planning still left but I'm hoping to get bending and welding tubes by the summer.

Shavarsh
Shavarsh HalfDork
3/30/23 1:58 p.m.

I'm sure you are familiar with superfast matt. If not, there are some good ideas on his youtube channel relating to this. I suspect you've seen the video about the nissan leaf, as it sounds related to your future electrification plans. If not, its worth a watch!

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/30/23 2:08 p.m.

the offset you would need to run on a Motorcycle Powertrain for longitudinal is not sufficient to deal with a chain.  Just offset the engine in the chassis or run a CV jointed driveshaft.  You can counteract the weight impacts with fuel cell or radiator placement.  I'm a HUGE fan of tube frame cars wearing OEM sheet metal.   

Nwirtanen
Nwirtanen New Reader
3/30/23 5:19 p.m.

In reply to nocones :

That kinda seems like the way to go, with a small engine it should be easy to package everything else around even if the engine is offset.

When I was child I saw a tube frame peugeot 105 with a turbo hayabusa engine at a car show, loved those types of builds ever since. 

I have embarrased plenty of fast cars with my 206 on the street and I love sleepers in general. I'll keep this somewhat stock looking and not add wings or big aero elements. I'll never forget the "wtf is that thing" look I got from a guy driving a 2 seater jaguar when he couldn't keep up with my 206, I want more of that but from fast sports car guys at the track. 

Nwirtanen
Nwirtanen New Reader
3/30/23 5:23 p.m.

In reply to Shavarsh :

That nissan leaf is super cool, have been thinking about doing this for years but seeing the leaf was like the final straw, I just love high revving engines but also want the torque. I have driven my uncles V10 M5 a bunch and it's all I could want in a car, shame they are expensive and like to self destruct.

I will have to check out superfast matt. 

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