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appliance_racer
appliance_racer Reader
2/24/19 9:20 a.m.

It's been a few years since I played with a tibby so I dont remember which brakes yours will have but...... I have some xg350 front brake calipers, brackets, hubs, and such collecting dust in garage. They're yours for the low low price of free if you need them. 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
2/25/19 6:47 a.m.

I appreciate that, but there are a lot more pad options sticking with the stock Tib brakes. They'll be more than adequate if I can get the weight down.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/1/19 7:50 a.m.

Tomorrow we get the title work done and I drag it into the garage to install an intact timing belt. I'm so excited! I have very little hope the engine doesnt come out but a little is better than nothing.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/2/19 3:43 p.m.

Wife is under th weather so all I got done today was title work and getting it into the garage. I did fix the passenger door with a screwdriver placed in the right spots. 

$35 in sales tax and $15 title processing fee. $51 timing belt kit. $601 so far the wife was quick to point out!

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
3/2/19 5:09 p.m.
bobzilla said:
$601 so far the wife was quick to point out!

Was this said with the inflection of, "I'm so impressed with how much you've done with so little!"? 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/2/19 5:38 p.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

Sadly no. She followed that up with “we should sell it and do it again”. Nope. Nope nope nope 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/3/19 11:10 a.m.

Well hell. Needs heads at the very least. Took 2 hours to strip down and install the new timing belt and pulleys. Hooked the battery up and cranked. It will start but it’s runnjng in about 3 cylinders and getting backfires through the intake. 

So now the bigger question. This engine has 212k miles on it. I can get a pair of heads and gaskets for about $110. Can do those in the car. That would put me into the car total for $710.

Local junkyard has an engine on the shelf with 118k for $300. If I go that route I’ll yank the trans out and install a diff at the same time. And headers. And an intake. Basically build it out to max budget.  Intake, headers, diff and engine would put me into it for 1700 leaving me almost enough for some 17x8’s or struts/springs. 

What sayeth the peanut gallery?

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
3/3/19 11:30 a.m.

My question is, what do you want to own after the challenge? Answer that question and you've answered yours.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/3/19 11:41 a.m.

In reply to Dusterbd13-michael :

 

Post challenge it’s headed for OLoA in 2020. All those things I listed were going to get done post challenge. I was really hoping I could skate this in for under $600 for the challenge but that’s not likely to happen. 

Good news is the underside is really clean from rust. Lower control arms have been replaced fairly recently as the rubber compliance bushings look almost new. 

The bad news is the paint isn’t as spotless as I’d first thought. But I have to remember this is a 16 year old Korean car. Their paint sucked when new. 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/3/19 11:44 a.m.

Thats the tires on it. Wheels look like hell but they’re a can of spray paint and a couple hours of cleanup away from awesomeness. 

Where I started this morning. You can see the belt sticking out of the cam gear covers. 

Im 100% certain no matter what happens the cam covers get painted Ferrari red. 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/4/19 8:23 a.m.

I may have found an engine fairly close for $250. IMO, that's a no-brainer. I guess its time to start ordering other stuff....

sleepyhead
sleepyhead GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
3/4/19 12:37 p.m.

for whatever reason, I feel like diff+intake+wheels would be step one / highest budget priority, and add headers once it's clear you've got the budget for them... but I'm not used to Hyundai pricing yet.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/4/19 12:59 p.m.

In reply to sleepyhead :

Headers are $89 and are 100000000% easier to install with the engine out. Intake is $44, Diff pricing is between $350and 400. The wheels on it are 17x7 and the tires are good enough for this year. So, $500 + $250 for hte engine + $89 for headers + $44 for intake and $400 for diff puts me at just under $1300. Here's where I need to make the hard decision..... Coilovers for $620 (total to $1903) or springs/struts for $337 and try to find some 17x8 +40 wheels for $400.

Or, I could do the other stuff on the first list, stick with the stock suspension and get some nice 17x8's for $600 and just do springs.

Robbie
Robbie UltimaDork
3/4/19 1:07 p.m.

struts/springs for sure. And drag slicks not wheels. 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/4/19 1:32 p.m.

In reply to Robbie :

This car is only going to make the challenge once, then it's going to be track day rat/OLoA car until it's all used up. While I've been drag racing it's not really my bag and this thing will be lucky to be a low 15-second car. 

BrianC72gt
BrianC72gt GRM+ Memberand New Reader
3/4/19 7:33 p.m.

Trying to squeeze out reliable power on the cheap?  My first thought was shave the heads to bump compression, then boost the fuel rail pressure or swap in some slightly larger junkyard injectors to keep things not-too-lean.    But that all seems like a lot of effort for little gain and could yield  a temperamental hot-head to boot.

I know nothing about these engines.  How do they respond to higher compression?  Anyone built one all-motor?

 

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/5/19 6:59 a.m.

In reply to BrianC72gt :

They love boost. Alpine made stupidcharger kits for them back in the day. NA with the normal bolt on's we'll be around the 160-170whp mark. Limited by ECU at this point because no one tunes them anymore. WEll, technically no one did before either they just had piggy backs that tricked the ecu into doing what it wanted. 

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/5/19 8:19 a.m.

nitrous

Robbie
Robbie UltimaDork
3/5/19 8:29 a.m.
AngryCorvair said:

nitrous

sleepyhead
sleepyhead GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
3/5/19 9:26 a.m.

In reply to Robbie :

I went looking for a gif of that last week, I can't believe there isn't one out there already

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/16/19 6:46 p.m.

Got some stuff done today. Got good news. The wheels are 17x7.5 not the 7’s I thought they were. Still ugly and need a lot of clean up but they’re a good size. 

Also this happened:

Took me 4.5 hours to pull. A lot of learning and mid steps in there. Next one I bet I could do it in 3. Covered in oil. Definitely bent valves. All the hoses are dried out broke a breather hose and a couple clips. Nothing I don’t have spares for at least. 

Leave in the morning for Atlanta. I’ll star looking for a newer model when I get back. 

appliance_racer
appliance_racer Reader
3/16/19 7:39 p.m.

I believe the lower intake manifold was supposedly the choke point on the 2.7. Hyundai did the EGR function with cam timing. Without variable cam timing the engine is always diluting the intake charge with EGR. We were told this was done to simplify parts counts for production. 

Being as the engine is out have you considered an engine swap? There is the later 2.7 (delta II) that addressed many of the original 2.7 short comings. It was available here in the states in the Santa Fe and the Optima I believe. I have also wondered about the 3.5 xg motor. There are enough parts combination between the xg and sorento that a manual throttle and manual trans ecm would work. It's kind of a parts bin swap.

I'm excited about your build. I worked for the Korean pair for 15 yrs. The wife and I are proud owners even tho I work for another brand these days. 

gumby
gumby GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/16/19 9:09 p.m.

A quick google says 5x114.3

I have a pair(might have 3) of 17x8 +40 you can borrow if you wanna get a bit more than those 7.5's
I also have a pair of 17x9 +24's if you can make them fit....

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
3/17/19 3:28 a.m.

You said "...another engine..." So twin engine Tiburon?

Burnouts rule.

bobzilla
bobzilla MegaDork
3/17/19 7:24 a.m.

In going to stick with the delta on this for cost and laziness. There are so many in the scrap yards because they are reliable. You can pull 160-170whp na fairly consistently without much stress on the engine. 

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