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1988RedT2
1988RedT2 UltimaDork
9/6/17 10:35 a.m.

Well, it's better, and I will give credit where credit is due.  Still not enough density.  Too much white space between posts, but it's better, much better. 

I much preferred the classic look of the old serif font, but I can see from some preceding posts that I am in the minority here.  About what you'd expect from a bunch of tattooed knuckle-draggers with GED's. devil

Chris_V
Chris_V UberDork
9/6/17 10:39 a.m.

I dunno, I like it. White space is about right, scrolling is easy, and it does look much better on a mobile device (where 80% of browsing is done these days). Clean and clear.

 

RedGT
RedGT Dork
9/6/17 10:45 a.m.

Font is much better now!  smiley

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
9/6/17 11:15 a.m.

Ok so things are looking better today. But I do have one request that's been brought up already.

Can we *please* get some differentiation in text color? 

Mainly on the board list, like in latest topics. We have a bold header, then everything is gray. Maybe get some red or blue or black in their for where it was posted or who was the last poster?

The gray just blend all together, and depending on how it wraps the text, makes getting to the last new post an annoyance.

sleepyhead
sleepyhead GRM+ Memberand Reader
9/6/17 11:36 a.m.
4cylndrfury said:

Constructive criticism is typically welcome. Bellyaching like a tantrum throwing 3 year old because they want cake for dinner is...well...not.

Breakfast.  Cake is for Breakfast.

It's got eggs!  And Milk!

Also cool to see the emoji's fixed, new font.  and I just found the text box fullscreen.  That's cool!

lnlogauge
lnlogauge Reader
9/6/17 11:44 a.m.

I didn't like the 30% of the screen being white on the left. I don't like everything moved to the left now. As someone said before, add a little back, so that things are more centered. 

As said 76 times so far, the amount of scrolling is silly. All that would take is reducing the font size on the mains. 

There needs to be breakup between things. It looks hastily thrown together, when everything is on one page with no boxes or lines. A simple line would even work. just something to break up a page into sections. lifehacker.com does a good job of using white, but doing it right. 

example.

https://imgur.com/qGBtVP2

93gsxturbo
93gsxturbo Dork
9/6/17 11:59 a.m.

Thanks for taking the time to update the forum.  I have been a user/reader here for almost 20 years (got my first magazine in 99, $1500 Challenge issue) and have seen forums as well as forum formats come and go.  

This recent change is not for the better, the feel has switched from intimate forum to Jalopnik/TTAC.  Its too tough to tell one topic from another, the font is friggin huge, way too much white, too many splash screens/graphics to make stealth-work-browsing easy.  

What is all that stuff on the right hand side of the screen?  A lot of it is just filler or links to threads I can already find in the forum.  

People come to a forum to get user-generated content, if I wanted staff generated content I would go to a different page/index.  The pictures as you scroll through on the right hand side are very discracting.

Please roll the forum back to its previous formatting or do some tweaks to emulate that formatting, this is a major step backward in usability and legibility.  Change for the sake of change is not always needed or welcomed.

bluej
bluej UltraDork
9/6/17 12:18 p.m.

Took some time to read through the whole thread before responding, and it was interesting to see the layout edits happen as I progressed through over a few days.

The changes so far are definitely improvements. Thank you, Ed and team, for taking the feedback in the constructive manner it's meant to be by most of us, and reacting so quickly.

There's really only one thing that would still impact how much time I spend here, and it's the white. White like this causes eye strain, is unattractive, and uses more power to display (think mobile batteries).

My perfect world wishlist includes a small bit more of visual breathing space on the left side, and less vertical spacing  for higher info density.

Thanks again for listening!

RedGT
RedGT Dork
9/6/17 12:32 p.m.

I don't know if it has been said, but if you shrink the width of your browser window eventually it forces the obnoxious rainbow of links/images on the right side to consolidate to the bottom.  I like this much more.

 

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand UberDork
9/6/17 12:35 p.m.

Getting better all the time now.

Rodan
Rodan Reader
9/6/17 1:11 p.m.

Much improved since yesterday.  New font is the best change so far.  My scroll wheel is still screaming in pain, though... cheeky

In all seriousness, thank you for listening!

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/6/17 1:17 p.m.

Noticeable improvements since yesterday, thank you!

Couple of other things I noticed:

  • Hitting "reply" brings up the editor window/text edit field, but it takes a noticeable amount of time until the editor itself and the "In reply to" text appears. That's on a desktop (Win 10, FF 55.0.3, 16GB RAM, decent processor) on a fast internet connection (100/4).
  • Could it be that there is a lot of Javascript running since the update? I noticed that the battery level was dropping rather quickly when I was on the site on my iPhone yesterday - we're talking almost 10% of battery level within 20 minutes...
JeffHarbert
JeffHarbert GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/6/17 1:32 p.m.

Ah! Much better now. Thanks, GRM web crew!

ProDarwin
ProDarwin PowerDork
9/6/17 1:42 p.m.
  • Oooooo.  Look how dense the bulleted points are!
  • Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Duis ipsum ligula, pellentesque nec malesuada efficitur, interdum eleifend nunc. Integer at libero commodo, ornare mi eu, congue nisl. Duis euismod ligula nec lacus lacinia, eu vehicula est rhoncus. Nam nec ipsum urna. Suspendisse viverra augue ac dolor interdum placerat. Cras posuere, quam ut laoreet malesuada, purus urna viverra ante, sit amet fermentum felis magna eget mi. Nullam ac massa lacinia, laoreet purus sit amet, vehicula nisl. Pellentesque imperdiet arcu non erat gravida, sit amet dignissim purus faucibus. Nam tellus nisi, luctus et fringilla id, rhoncus a mauris.
  • Nunc mi elit, lacinia sed luctus ornare, sagittis id massa. Praesent auctor arcu eget suscipit placerat. Quisque pretium, elit et semper scelerisque, risus ante ultricies erat, ut feugiat ex elit in sapien. Sed purus ante, mollis eu pulvinar eget, consectetur nec sem. Phasellus eget pulvinar velit, vitae lobortis tortor. Aliquam et neque eleifend nibh scelerisque ultricies vel at urna. In vel nibh sed magna consectetur blandit eget at ligula. Cras tincidunt sed enim id rhoncus. Aliquam quis nisi et diam blandit rutrum et sagittis quam.
  • Note to self:  start every post with a bullet point.

 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
9/6/17 1:45 p.m.

And, after accommodating my typeface complaints, we have a few minor  cleanup items for the punch list:

  • Bulleted and numbered indent copy is still in the serif font.
  • So is the edit / input box text, for some reason, though it renders correctly when you're looking at finished posts.

Keep your chins up, gang.  The layout has gotten 1000% better since yesterday.

I, for one, like the left-justified layout with the miscellany on the right where I can ignore it while reading threads.

rslifkin
rslifkin SuperDork
9/6/17 1:46 p.m.

I think all of the posts got a bit more dense at some point recently.  Definitely looks more dense than it did earlier today.  

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
9/6/17 1:46 p.m.
ProDarwin said:
  • Oooooo.  Look how dense the bulleted points are!
  • Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetur adipiscing elit. Duis ipsum ligula, pellentesque nec malesuada efficitur, interdum eleifend nunc. Integer at libero commodo, ornare mi eu, congue nisl. Duis euismod ligula nec lacus lacinia, eu vehicula est rhoncus. Nam nec ipsum urna. Suspendisse viverra augue ac dolor interdum placerat. Cras posuere, quam ut laoreet malesuada, purus urna viverra ante, sit amet fermentum felis magna eget mi. Nullam ac massa lacinia, laoreet purus sit amet, vehicula nisl. Pellentesque imperdiet arcu non erat gravida, sit amet dignissim purus faucibus. Nam tellus nisi, luctus et fringilla id, rhoncus a mauris.
  • Nunc mi elit, lacinia sed luctus ornare, sagittis id massa. Praesent auctor arcu eget suscipit placerat. Quisque pretium, elit et semper scelerisque, risus ante ultricies erat, ut feugiat ex elit in sapien. Sed purus ante, mollis eu pulvinar eget, consectetur nec sem. Phasellus eget pulvinar velit, vitae lobortis tortor. Aliquam et neque eleifend nibh scelerisque ultricies vel at urna. In vel nibh sed magna consectetur blandit eget at ligula. Cras tincidunt sed enim id rhoncus. Aliquam quis nisi et diam blandit rutrum et sagittis quam.
  • Note to self:  start every post with a bullet point.

 

Say what???

Is that some random version of Latin?

JeffHarbert
JeffHarbert GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
9/6/17 1:51 p.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

It's called Lorem Ipsum. Been around for 500 years, give or take. http://www.lipsum.com/

bluej
bluej UltraDork
9/6/17 2:02 p.m.
Duke said:

I, for one, like the left-justified layout with the miscellany on the right where I can ignore it while reading threads.

Overall, I agree, I just think it could use a few more pixels breathing space, not a whole column.  Think tweaking the last few pounds of tire pressure. That's why I mentioned it as a "perfect world" scenario.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
9/6/17 2:04 p.m.

I was good with yesterday's result. Today looks better. Good job guys and gals. 

Zomby Woof
Zomby Woof PowerDork
9/6/17 2:33 p.m.

FYI the quote feature is working for me now, probably was yesterday too.

I just didn't realize that it takes about 20 seconds to load.

Chris_V
Chris_V UberDork
9/6/17 2:39 p.m.
Zomby Woof said:

FYI the quote feature is working for me now, probably was yesterday too.

I just didn't realize that it takes about 20 seconds to load.

Took less than a second to load for me.

codrus
codrus GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
9/6/17 2:43 p.m.

FWIW, there also appear to be some weird glitches with posting URLs.  I was posting one yesterday in the F1 thread, initially I just dumped it in, hoping the new software would auto-id it and turn it into a link.  It didn't, so I went back to edit it and add the html tags like before, and then I wound up with the html in the posted message, with a link inside it.  Went back to delete that and it was back to just text of the URL.  A couple more rounds and somehow it fixed itself.

Definitely looking much better!

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
9/6/17 2:52 p.m.
JeffHarbert said:

In reply to alfadriver :

It's called Lorem Ipsum. Been around for 500 years, give or take. http://www.lipsum.com/

Learn something new every day! Had no idea of that, but it certainly makes sense.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
9/6/17 3:06 p.m.

One thought on condensing posts within a thread, the Delete, Edit, Quote, Reply buttons could all be half their current width, allowing two buttons per line (mobile browsing on android). This could help with a bit of scrolling. wink

Love that new sans serif font in the published posts. Interestingly, it is still the serif font in the editor box. 

 

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