Crap-can racing that isn't "endurance" racing

I believe the OP means something that isn't an all day/night affair. Say make it a 4-6hr race on ONE day. Make it a 3 pit stop minimum and one driver change per 6hr "sprint".

okay, Chump has that too. Except they are double 7 hour races.

One independent race on Saturday for 7 hours and 1 independent race on Sunday for 7 hours.

You only need 2 drivers to actually drive the car.

Again, as I mentioned before, they also have real true sprints (like 30 min races).

Rob R.

I could go for this. Have a race I can arrive in my $500 car for. No pit stops. Say a 30 min heat, another 30 min heat an hour later, then a 45 min feature. It could be run like a NASA TT in that you have various classes or just pile them all in together. Take the fastest lap time average and declare a winner.

Xceler8x wrote: I could go for this. Have a race I can arrive in my $500 car for. No pit stops. Say a 30 min heat, another 30 min heat an hour later, then a 45 min feature. It could be run like a NASA TT in that you have various classes or just pile them all in together. Take the fastest lap time average and declare a winner.

This. Mostly.

wvumtnbkr wrote: Again, as I mentioned before, they also have real true sprints (like 30 min races). Rob R.

I only saw 2 on the entire schedule for the year. Not many people are going to build a car for 2 races.

tuna55 wrote: A very good point. As a Lemons vet I can say that if I could just bring a Lemonesque prepped car out for 2 20 minute heats and one big feature of maybe 45 minutes for maybe a few hundred bucks entry, I would be interested.

That's more along the lines I was thinking of.

I think it mostly caters to people that already have crap cans.

Also, I think there are more to be scheduled next year.

1. One of the BIG reasons that crap cans work so well is the "Divide by 4" factor. Endurance racing allows this. Sprint racing doesn't. The actual build cost of a crap can is within pissing distance of a "real" club race car. But since you're dividing the costs, it works. When you can no longer do that, then just going the traditional club racing route starts to make a lot more sense.

2. Some SCCA regions ARE creating classes for crap cans. In Atlanta for instance, you can run a crap can in ITX. It has to pass GCR safety rules (which a decent crap can will do), but prep level is pretty much unpoliced outside of safety. Additionally, some SCCA divisions are using crap can race history to offer school waivers, such that with a decent enough resume and some vouches from licensed SCCA folks, you can get a novice permit via paperwork instead of via the school route.