I think F500/F600 already has a hard to beat recipe for the FSAE style formula.
Doing the 'production' car somewhat RUF style could be interesting. Maybe start with something like a GT86 body in white and a LS376/525 T56 connect and cruise package.
I think F500/F600 already has a hard to beat recipe for the FSAE style formula.
Doing the 'production' car somewhat RUF style could be interesting. Maybe start with something like a GT86 body in white and a LS376/525 T56 connect and cruise package.
In reply to Driven5 :
If we kept production numbers under a certain figure (335?) then safety regs can be bypassed, we'd just need an emissions certified drivetrain.
I am thinking Mustang Ecoboost in an MST Mk1...
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
This would be a track day car. No need to meet emissions on those, unless I'm wrong...
Tom1200 said:We would fail epically because we would only build two types of cars:
V12 Miata look alikes that were so narrow focused only 6 people a year would by them.
Cars that retailed for slightly over $2000 with questionable mechanical parts.
If we try hard enough that Venn diagram is a circle.
I'm bringing 10-11" of suspension travel back.
I'm in.
Simple.
Modular.
Owner Repairable.
I am best kept in the concept and marketing departments.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:In reply to akylekoz :
Yes! If we can get the B13 Sentra tooling. They only recently stopped making it.
Imagine a B13 with a 1.0 Ecoboost instead of the SR20DE. (Or GA16DE)
Tsuru. That's the Mexican code word you need.
Don't know what we would build, but I could almost guarantee it would have a tube frame, lightweight body, sticky tires and big brakes.
In reply to tr8todd :
Yeah, but the question is what powerplant would you specify for ~200hp, longevity, low weight and low cost?
In reply to stroker :
No need to worry about emissions, as much as I love forced induction, if I'm starting an automotive company or new model at this point, I would only consider making an EV. For all intensive purposes the internal combustion engine is dead.
In reply to stroker :
Low cost would be a 2.5 Duratec, it seems they are worthless because they never need to be replaced in service. I have zero trust for camshaft drive that relies on oil pressure to work, though. Oil pickups get uncovered, you shouldn't have to lose an engine because of a pressure hiccup in turn 6.
E39 so sexy
At some point, making a CF chassis vs. a tube frame cost and effort will be pretty similar. Especially for the required skill.
The other option is Elise- which is glued extruded aluminum structure. As long as it's mid engine, that's a great option.
Especially since we are talking a track only car.
When I was still active in AROC, I knew some CF specialists. Just need a big enough autoclave.
Captdownshift (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to stroker :
No need to worry about emissions, as much as I love forced induction, if I'm starting an automotive company or new model at this point, I would only consider making an EV. For all intensive purposes the internal combustion engine is dead.
While I agree with your statement completely, I think the fun would be steam powered. Nope not steam turbine, reciprocating. Surely 90 years after the last of the viable reciprocating was developed. There has to be some improvements we can develop ? Stretch our minds a bit.
In reply to frenchyd :
Good thinking, an apocalypse car. It can run on anything that burns, this will ruin the plans of the Illuminati. One the world goes all electric and they have us right where they want us, BAM, Steam Punk Era. We Will Sell Millions.
How well do plastic bags burn? Just think, suck water out of the local stream or the air in July, fill up at any trash can or recycling drop off site. Free locomotion.
alfadriver said:At some point, making a CF chassis vs. a tube frame cost and effort will be pretty similar. Especially for the required skill.
Until you crash it, tube frame is much easier and cheaper to repair.
triumph7 said:alfadriver said:At some point, making a CF chassis vs. a tube frame cost and effort will be pretty similar. Especially for the required skill.
Until you crash it, tube frame is much easier and cheaper to repair.
Well, don't crash, then.
What was the last production car that was tube framed? If this is more of a clean sheet, I'm not sure why one would not use the best available.
The exchanges from Page 2 may have exposed the fundamental flaw in my original idea...
2nd gen Vipers were made with steel frames to make crash damage easier to repair since a lot of people tracked them...
Do something based on a roller skate. Then sell swap able body's that you store in you garage.
Sell a small pickup a sedan and a sports car. The different body's would include re mapping of the roller skate to match the purpose. Both the driveline and the suspension would be adjusted.
Split up into 3 divisions.
1. Track car
2. Tow vehicle/off roader
3. Family truckster - diesel manual wagon. Brown optional.
We would be the only people that wanted them, and we would all want to wait until they were at the bottom of the depreciation curve.
PMRacing said:3. Family truckster - diesel manual wagon. Brown optional.
Can we make an AMC eagle wagon with a gas destroked I6? With wood paneling, please.
I would like to apply for either CEO or crash test dummy. I figured the skill sets overlap pretty well. 
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