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Jaynen
Jaynen Dork
2/8/15 11:03 p.m.

Drooling over both an Exige S and Cayman S that were at this Saturdays BMCCA event it had me wondering as I sat waiting in my little NA. Is there anything that comes even close to the Miata platform that is mid engined when it comes to

1) Proven and reliable suspension setups 2) Ability to swap a ton of different potential options or FI options 3) relatively small wheels that support fairly wide tires 4) light weight

I know we have discussed the glories of MR2's here before but I don't know how flexible they are as a platform

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
2/8/15 11:07 p.m.

Fiero?

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
2/8/15 11:08 p.m.

MR2 Spyder.

Jaynen
Jaynen Dork
2/8/15 11:12 p.m.

Yeah the MR2, MRS, and Fiero all come to mind

The Fiero I know has had quite a few different swaps but I know nothing about how good you can get the suspension or what wheels/tires it can fit

The MR2/MRS I heard can be a bit tail happy? And again don't know what their potential is or how they compare fun wise to a miata.

Then again miata's are hard to beat.

DWNSHFT
DWNSHFT HalfDork
2/8/15 11:26 p.m.

Jaynen
Jaynen Dork
2/8/15 11:36 p.m.

Oh the 914 there is something I forgot about :)

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
2/8/15 11:38 p.m.

Based on Internet Knowledge (tm) one wants an '88 Fiero for the best suspension.

Jaynen
Jaynen Dork
2/8/15 11:57 p.m.

Yeah just read that its lotus sourced that final year. EDIT: not lotus sourced but the original engineer designed system which was finally allowed

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
2/9/15 12:13 a.m.

AW11.

mblommel
mblommel GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/9/15 8:13 a.m.

1st or 3rd gen MR2, done.

Gunslinger
Gunslinger New Reader
2/9/15 8:29 a.m.
mblommel wrote: 1st or 3rd gen MR2, done.

Fiat X1/9 if you need power you're going to probably want to swap.

Fiero is pretty heavy @2700bs

Duke
Duke UltimaDork
2/9/15 8:39 a.m.
Swank Force One wrote: MR2 Spyder.

This. It's been a while since I could drive the Manic Miata in anger, so my buddy let me co-drive his STR MR-S. It's probably down 50 hp from the MM at full chat, but man, it was telepathic in turn-in and transitions.

Leafy
Leafy HalfDork
2/9/15 8:48 a.m.

The only thing going against the fiero, mr2, and fiat is that any shock/spring setup is going to have to be custom, they just dont have the off the shelf high end suspension options that the miata does.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
2/9/15 8:50 a.m.

To a point, yes. Koni Race inserts are used in the MR-S, and there's off the shelf Ohlins.

Equal to AST/Xidas? Probably not.

unk577
unk577 HalfDork
2/9/15 9:24 a.m.

ND miata

T.J.
T.J. PowerDork
2/9/15 9:27 a.m.

In reply to DWNSHFT:

That picture made me run off to craigslist to search for 914s. I usually do that search every month or two just in case there is a decent one for sale close by.

T.J.
T.J. PowerDork
2/9/15 9:31 a.m.

$2500, 2 hours away, doesn't run, but according to the ad, "If you know what your doing the work on it can be done in a day and it will be running." Damn you.

BoxheadTim
BoxheadTim GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
2/9/15 9:35 a.m.

Yeah right, so it's another of those "easy fixes" that a seller can't be bothered to apply to a car?

clutchsmoke
clutchsmoke Dork
2/9/15 9:53 a.m.

MR-S. They can be tail happy, but that can be remedied. There's a Member on here that's spent many (hundreds?) Of hours getting his suspension dialed in.

Jaynen
Jaynen Dork
2/9/15 9:59 a.m.

Is MR-S even competitive in STR? Vs the NCs and S2000s?

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed SuperDork
2/9/15 10:51 a.m.
DWNSHFT wrote:

Damn. Beautiful!!!

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
2/9/15 10:59 a.m.
Jaynen wrote: Is MR-S even competitive in STR? Vs the NCs and S2000s?

Locally, probably. Nationally, no. But neither is a "real" Miata.

amg_rx7
amg_rx7 SuperDork
2/9/15 11:43 a.m.

1st gen Boxster

T.J.
T.J. PowerDork
2/9/15 12:03 p.m.

In reply to BoxheadTim:

The ad says the husband can no longer work on them due to health reasons and the wife is selling. The other two 914's in the ad are complete and total train wrecks including one that has the top chopped off and a craptastic 80's looking body kit and giant wing. The one I posted at least looks like a car, so it is a step up from the others they are selling. I'm not rushing out to go look at it, just a funny, typical craigslist ad.

mblommel
mblommel GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/9/15 2:21 p.m.
Gunslinger wrote:
mblommel wrote: 1st or 3rd gen MR2, done.
Fiat X1/9 if you need power you're going to probably want to swap. Fiero is pretty heavy @2700bs

The thing that makes the X not a mid-engine miata is reliability. Miata=anvil, X not so much. I know, I've owned 2 miatas, an MR2 and an X. Guess which one has sat broken for 6 years and which ones started every day.

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