BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon HalfDork
2/12/12 8:21 a.m.

On the crawl on Speed today, Nissan announced that they are returning to Austrailian V8 Supercars in 2013. They will conform to the current rules, so it will be a 5.0 liter V8, RWD, very similar to the current cars.

I found a news story but I'm on my phone and linking doesn't work very well. I'm very excited!

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
2/12/12 8:24 a.m.

Yes, good news.

Ranger50
Ranger50 Dork
2/12/12 9:06 a.m.

There is also news that Chrysler is in talks of joining in 2013 also.....

Nissan news: http://www.v8supercars.com.au/championship/newsarticle/official-nissan-to-join-v8-supercars-championship/tabid/70/newsid/12124/default.aspx

Chrysler news: http://www.motorstv.com/car/touring/v8/31012012/chrysler-v8-supercar-entry-moving-closer

Merc
Merc New Reader
2/12/12 10:35 a.m.

It's about time Nissan does a V8.

A semi-unrelated rant: Damn you Ford for not bringing the Ford Falcon stateside!!! You bastards lied when you said your brand was now a global brand!!!

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy SuperDork
2/12/12 11:09 a.m.
Merc wrote: A semi-unrelated rant: Damn you Ford for not bringing the Ford Falcon stateside!!! You bastards lied when you said your brand was now a global brand!!!

I wonder if its Fords fault, or the unreasonable safety rules in the American market? Betcha you could get one in Mexico...

Ranger50
Ranger50 Dork
2/12/12 11:19 a.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote:
Merc wrote: A semi-unrelated rant: Damn you Ford for not bringing the Ford Falcon stateside!!! You bastards lied when you said your brand was now a global brand!!!
I wonder if its Fords fault, or the unreasonable safety rules in the American market? Betcha you could get one in Mexico...

I dunno, ask GM. They brought over the Monaro and Commodore, as the GTO and G8 respectively.....

The big problem I saw with those two were of being WAY overpriced for what you got, IMO.

jimbob_racing
jimbob_racing Dork
2/12/12 11:20 a.m.
Merc wrote: A semi-unrelated rant: Damn you Ford for not bringing the Ford Falcon stateside!!! You bastards lied when you said your brand was now a global brand!!!

cough, Ford Ranger, cough

corytate
corytate HalfDork
2/12/12 11:31 a.m.

article on speedhunter as well about nissan

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/12/12 11:45 a.m.

In reply to Ranger50:

ORLY? What other under $30K new car gave you 400HP/400TQ in 2005 with IRS? Hell, what does that NOW??!?

Blame the marketing, shoddy dealers, and stupid management, but it wasn't the cars. They're both going up in price since Pontiac closed.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/12/12 11:47 a.m.

Oh, and on topic, yaaaaaawn. A tube frame silhouette car that's V8/RWD version of a V6/AWD car? Why don't they just call it NASCAR?

DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
2/12/12 12:01 p.m.

Speaking of Diesels that will never make it to US Shores....

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt SuperDork
2/12/12 1:05 p.m.
Javelin wrote: Oh, and on topic, yaaaaaawn. A tube frame silhouette car that's V8/RWD version of a V6/AWD car? Why don't they just call it NASCAR?

I can't be the only one who thinks there's a market for a kit to rip out the GTR's $1000-an-oil-change glass transmission and transfer case, and replace it with a T56, or even a Chrysler A727.

Merc
Merc New Reader
2/12/12 2:02 p.m.
Javelin wrote: Oh, and on topic, yaaaaaawn. A tube frame silhouette car that's V8/RWD version of a V6/AWD car? Why don't they just call it NASCAR?

I heard all the big series are going to a NASCAR-like format now to allow a global cost cutting on car builds. AussieV8, F1, DTM and I think maybe BTCC might all use a universal chassis for their series.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/12/12 2:51 p.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: I wonder if its Fords fault, or the unreasonable safety rules in the American market? Betcha you could get one in Mexico...

I'd imagine that a large part of it is that Ford would want to avoid the kind of line muddling that has plagued GM.

They already have a decent line up cars in the US, based on the Mazda 2, the Focus, the Mazda 6, and the Volvo S80. Where would the Falcon fit in? Or: where would it fit in where it wouldn't compete with the Mustang? It makes no sense to have a car whose main purpose is to lure people away from something else that they already sell. It takes away from the economies of scale.

Ranger50
Ranger50 Dork
2/12/12 3:08 p.m.
Javelin wrote: In reply to Ranger50: ORLY? What other under $30K new car gave you 400HP/400TQ in 2005 with IRS? Hell, what does that NOW??!? Blame the marketing, shoddy dealers, and stupid management, but it wasn't the cars. They're both going *up* in price since Pontiac closed.

When were they under $30K for those kind of options????? I never saw them below $32K.

Oh and IRS? BFD. Just more stupid expensive E36 M3 to break.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/12/12 3:52 p.m.
Ranger50 wrote: Oh and IRS? BFD. Just more stupid expensive E36 M3 to break.

IRS is great if you're trying to squeeze out as much interior room as possible.

Important for a family sedan, not so much for a performance car.

Notice that Ford's family sedans all have IRS, all Mustangs are solid axle.

wrek496
wrek496 New Reader
2/12/12 7:00 p.m.
Merc wrote:
Javelin wrote: Oh, and on topic, yaaaaaawn. A tube frame silhouette car that's V8/RWD version of a V6/AWD car? Why don't they just call it NASCAR?
I heard all the big series are going to a NASCAR-like format now to allow a global cost cutting on car builds. AussieV8, F1, DTM and I think maybe BTCC might all use a universal chassis for their series.

F1 to use a universal chassis? Or tub? Huh? Where was this heard?

11110000
11110000 Reader
2/12/12 7:04 p.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: ...and the Volvo S80.

Volvo is Chinese now. Not Ford.

OPENING FOR FALCON!!!

novaderrik
novaderrik SuperDork
2/12/12 7:56 p.m.
Ranger50 wrote:
Javelin wrote: In reply to Ranger50: ORLY? What other under $30K new car gave you 400HP/400TQ in 2005 with IRS? Hell, what does that NOW??!? Blame the marketing, shoddy dealers, and stupid management, but it wasn't the cars. They're both going *up* in price since Pontiac closed.
When were they under $30K for those kind of options????? I never saw them below $32K. Oh and IRS? BFD. Just more stupid expensive E36 M3 to break.

i saw dealers that were trying to move GTO's off the lots for $25k to make room for cars that actually sell.. of course, they dropped the price down from around the $40k they were trying to get with the "ultra super rare get one and make your neighbors jealous" premium they felt like they had to slap on top of the regular sticker price.

not that this has anything to do with Nissan or the Aussie V8 Supercar series..

does Nissan even make a production engine that fits in with the rules, or are they going to design something specifically for that series like everyone has done for NASCAR now?

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/12/12 9:51 p.m.
Ranger50 wrote:
Javelin wrote: In reply to Ranger50: ORLY? What other under $30K new car gave you 400HP/400TQ in 2005 with IRS? Hell, what does that NOW??!? Blame the marketing, shoddy dealers, and stupid management, but it wasn't the cars. They're both going *up* in price since Pontiac closed.
When were they under $30K for those kind of options????? I never saw them below $32K. Oh and IRS? BFD. Just more stupid expensive E36 M3 to break.

Both the GTO and the G8 GT were $29,995 MSRP. ThunderCougarFalconGoat on here bought his 05 brand new for that. Many, many 04's and 06's were sold well below that as well.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo SuperDork
2/12/12 9:53 p.m.
Merc wrote: It's about time Nissan does a V8. A semi-unrelated rant: Damn you Ford for not bringing the Ford Falcon stateside!!! You bastards lied when you said your brand was now a global brand!!!

They... tried?

kevlarcorolla
kevlarcorolla Reader
2/12/12 10:11 p.m.
Knurled wrote:
Ranger50 wrote: Oh and IRS? BFD. Just more stupid expensive E36 M3 to break.
IRS is great if you're trying to squeeze out as much interior room as possible. Important for a family sedan, not so much for a performance car. Notice that Ford's family sedans all have IRS, all Mustangs are solid axle.

So a performance car should have a heavy ass solid rear??.If thats true than we should go back wooden spoked wheels being dragged behind a horse.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo SuperDork
2/12/12 10:13 p.m.
kevlarcorolla wrote: So a performance car should have a heavy ass solid rear??.If thats true than we should go back wooden spoked wheels being dragged behind a horse.

Good thinking. That could really make things interesting...

Oh damn, The Amish already came up with that idea.

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