fast_eddie_72 wrote:That looks fast...
Once the front bumper hits the ground it will slow down.
fast_eddie_72 wrote:
Once the front bumper hits the ground it will slow down.
My Spit 6 would tripod during auto-x corners... but not in a good way... Looked more like that van pictured above. 
My roll stiffness is fairly balanced front/rear. 
I've always though a lifted inside (front) wheel made for super cool for photos.
Tom Heath wrote: I've always though a lifted inside (front) wheel made for super cool for photos.
The Lotus Cortinas do it with great beauty.
My friends M3 just last weekend. It's sticky enough on 3 wheels, I don't wanna see it on 4!
Tom Heath wrote: I've always though a lifted inside (front) wheel made for super cool for photos.
Yup...makes me sad because my Camaro is just too nose-heavy to pull it off.
So close, but no cigar at the Atlanta NT: Aww...
In reply to Will:
You were damn close, though. How about a cigarello instead?
Great shot by Perry, too.
I remember, My old MG would lift the front inside to the point I knew I could put that tire into the grass a bit to corner tighter w/o effecting the car at all... I really miss that.
Some Mk1 cortinas dangling the inside front
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWp-0TuY4Sk
Racing was a better spectator sport back when tires were skinny and suspension travel was long.The excitement of drifting but with a purpose.
Look what popped up in Readers Rides!
Thanks for the clarifications guys. Car is having a little understeer but Just got more camber in the front so will see how that changes things this weekend.
Lol Looks like this is turning into show us your 3 wheelin stance photo thread.
crazyb wrote: Lol Looks like this is turning into show us your 3 wheelin stance photo thread.
well ok, you twisted my arm!
ChumpCar style.
Yes this is a FWD car. It was, um, not very fast out of corners. Especially once the boost came online (around 2000rpm) Needless to say, better front sway links are in its future as limited slips are impossible to fit in the $500 budget (better sway bar end links are hard enough).
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote: Look what popped up in Readers Rides!
That MR2 runs in the Philly region. A past ES National Champ a few owners ago if my memory is correct.
nervousdog wrote: Once the front bumper hits the ground it will slow down.
The bumper scrapes... the whole van comes to a stop like an old dog that doesn't have the enthusiasm to keep chasing the squirrel... It's a sad day when you sign up to work cones and end up having to take someone's van out into the woods :(
turboswede wrote: Needless to say, better front sway links are in its future as limited slips are impossible to fit in the $500 budget (better sway bar end links are hard enough).
Better front links? Seems to me that rear roll stiffness is the (an?) answer to lifting a front tire.
I'll also admit to being deeply confused by having that tire off the ground with so little body roll.
Or maybe just deeply confused...
Ian F wrote: That MR2 runs in the Philly region. A past ES National Champ a few owners ago if my memory is correct.
Yeah, it seems to have been passed around to a couple Philly members. It shows up at every event but never seems to have the same driver twice. Or at least it has many different drivers per event.
ransom wrote:turboswede wrote: Needless to say, better front sway links are in its future as limited slips are impossible to fit in the $500 budget (better sway bar end links are hard enough).Better front links? Seems to me that rear roll stiffness is the (an?) answer to lifting a front tire. I'll also admit to being deeply confused by having that tire off the ground with so little body roll. Or maybe just deeply confused...
It has plenty of rear roll stiffness, It could use more bump stiffness. However, the front bar binds so bad that you can't move the control arms without a large jack. Basically it locks the front suspension, but not always in the same place or at the same time.
Increasing the rear roll stiffness causes the rear to lose traction before the front, but at the cost of overall traction and driver comfort. It is just a little tail happy as it is and the weather conditions we see range from full sun to rain and fog over the course of a 24-hour race. Not too mention the oil and other cars we might encounter along the way. Considering the 200tw tires we are required to use, we want to use them all as much as possible.
Many people remove the front bars to improve traction by allowing the inside tire to maintain contact with the surface. This causes the car to roll too much at road race speeds. So we're going to modify the front bar to allow the suspension to move more freely and maintain similar roll stiffness.
In reply to turboswede:
My comments were made based on the (bad) assumption that your front swaybar end link upgrade was motivated by excessive compliance, not having the front suspension bound up solid 
4 wheels touching the ground is overrated...
Correct that, way overrated.
And maybe last,
911's are noted for picking up the front wheel also.
Yup. I've seen 911s, E30s, E36s, FDs, RX8s, and anything mid-engined pick up a front tire pretty regularly.
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