This is an interesting read on why Americans love their trucks compared to the rest of the world. As found in a discussion about the Ford Maverick on another forum.
Most of America is rural and the distances between locations are quite far compared to Europe, even within urban centers. (For example, the entire United Kingdom is slightly smaller in landmass than the US state of Oregon. Or, the US is more than twice the size of the whole European Union) Also, outside of major cities, public transportation is pretty much non-existent. My wife, who's British, never understood this until she moved here and saw that you can't just hop on a bus/tram/train and go anywhere you want all within a day. (you can drive for 12+ hours in a straight line in Texas and never leave the state) Another difference is, unlike a lot of people in Europe, most Americans do not shop daily for things like food. The time/distance issue just makes it too inconvenient, time-consuming, and costly in gas. Thus, a significant part of the population buys groceries on a weekly, bi-weekly, or (like us) a monthly basis. This translates to the need for a vehicle that can carry a lot of items at any given time, even if that time is few and far between. There's also the difference between house/property size. On average, US homes are quite a bit larger and homeowners have more land than their European counterparts. This means people are able to do more things like landscaping, home improvements, etc. All of which would require the transporting of large, bulky items. Now, can you carry lumber in a Prius? Yes, and I've seen it done. However, anyone who wants to haul items on any kind of regular basis is going to spend their money on a vehicle that's more capable. That doesn't mean they give up comfort, either. US trucks are pretty damn upscale, even at the lower trim levels.
Mr_Asa
UberDork
6/17/21 12:49 p.m.
Toyota Corolla. Blame the old farts moving down here from up north.
I wanted to check to see if thread title was accurate.. the states where F series is top selling represent 52.xx% of the population
At least Indiana got it right
02Pilot
UltraDork
6/17/21 1:28 p.m.
Everything about this map is depressing.
It is proof that nobody does their homework . . .
02Pilot said:
Everything about this map is depressing.
Why? Does it matter to you what other people drive?
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) said:
02Pilot said:
Everything about this map is depressing.
Why? Does it matter to you what other people drive?
Well, if only ONE of those states had "911 GT3 manual" as the most popular car sold, it'd be a whole lot easier to get a used one cheap. :)
Honda Civic in my state. VTEC!!!
02Pilot
UltraDork
6/17/21 3:38 p.m.
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) said:
02Pilot said:
Everything about this map is depressing.
Why? Does it matter to you what other people drive?
Very much so. How else am I supposed to bottom-feed off fully depreciated cars in 10-12 years? And I don't want any of these.
I'm a little surprised the map shows Silverado for Minnesota - there are a lot of them around, but it seems like I see more Fords.
stuart in mn said:
I'm a little surprised the map shows Silverado for Minnesota - there are a lot of them around, but it seems like I see more Fords.
I'm surprised about the opposite for Texas. I feel like I see more GM trucks than Ford. Or, could be that I generally like GM trucks better so I just notice them more.
Spot on for the difference in distance and land size for Europe vs. the U.S. except for a few places like NY, Boston, Chicago, we have enough land to grow horizontally instead of vertically. Hence why public transport in the NYC area is far above someplace like Austin.
-Rob
ShawnG
UltimaDork
6/17/21 4:30 p.m.
Only because they consider GMC and Chevrolet to be separate manufacturers.
Mr_Asa
UberDork
6/17/21 4:39 p.m.
ShawnG said:
Only because they consider GMC and Chevrolet to be separate manufacturers.
Do they? I'd expect GMC to be on the board somewhere if they were.
ShawnG
UltimaDork
6/17/21 4:49 p.m.
In reply to Mr_Asa :
TBH, I didn't look at the chart.
I like Ford trucks but Ford has been using the fact that whoever it is that keeps track of these things considers GMC and Chevy to be different manufacturers to claim "Best selling truck in North America" for years.
ShawnG said:
I like Ford trucks but Ford has been using the fact that whoever it is that keeps track of these things considers GMC and Chevy to be different manufacturers to claim "Best selling truck in North America" for years.
I always wondered about that. Using this site's data (just the first one on the Googles, not sure how accurate), it breaks down this way for 2020:
Full size sales totals
- Ford: 787,372
- GM: 846,071
- Dodge (Ram): 563,676
- Toyota: 109,203
- Nissan: 26,441
All trucks:
- Ford: 888,857
- GM: 967,498
- Dodge: 563,676
- Toyota: 348,008
- Nissan: 81,258
So, GM sold more full size trucks and more trucks overall in 2020. Going back to 2019 from the same site, though, Ford (896,526) outsold GM (807,894) on full size trucks.
-Rob
ShawnG said:
In reply to Mr_Asa :
TBH, I didn't look at the chart.
I like Ford trucks but Ford has been using the fact that whoever it is that keeps track of these things considers GMC and Chevy to be different manufacturers to claim "Best selling truck in North America" for years.
I think the one who considers them different vehicles is General Motors.
Ram 1500 here. And I bought one new. I am these statistics.
Somehow I'm not surprised that Florida Man managed to go with a different choice than every other state, but I was a bit disappointed to hear it was something relatively reasonable.
ShawnG said:
In reply to Mr_Asa :
I like Ford trucks but Ford has been using the fact that whoever it is that keeps track of these things considers GMC and Chevy to be different manufacturers to claim "Best selling truck in North America" for years.
I've been saying that for as long as Ford's been claiming it, and it is close.
Some years it's GM, some years it's Ford
So Chevy sold more trucks in total but Ford sold more than Chevy in way more states. In any state that is not blue there are still a lot of Chevys.
I would like to see this chart for several years in a row, specifically those $4 per gallon years VS the $1.87 years.
Cash for clunkers years, Hybrid/electric incentive years. 2020 put a lot of extra cash in peoples pockets that didn't need it, looking at you new truck buyer.
akylekoz said:
So Chevy sold more trucks in total but Ford sold more than Chevy in way more states. In any state that is not blue there are still a lot of Chevys.
I would like to see this chart for several years in a row, specifically those $4 per gallon years VS the $1.87 years.
Cash for clunkers years, Hybrid/electric incentive years. 2020 put a lot of extra cash in peoples pockets that didn't need it, looking at you new truck buyer.
Trucks from all 3 manufactures have been the top selling vehicles for a long time, not just a 2020 thing.
Also, Chevy didn't sell more trucks than Ford - Chevy + GMC did. Every that that isn't blue still had a ton of Ford trucks sold, too.
I live in Florida, and while the current generation of the Corolla MAY be popular, I don't see all that many of them.
I would think it is just as likely that the F-150 and Silverado are just as popular.
We just added another F150 for NC. The heated seats went out on dad's GMT700 and the local Chevy dealer weren't super nice to him. It's way more truck than he needs but it was the best option for price/mpg/crewcab/4x4/longbed. And stereotypically it was back at the dealer before 500 miles for warranty work.
Speaking as someone who has had 5 F-150s and will probably have another some day, there's a reason they are popular. Setting aside the towing and hauling, because a lot of people don't use that capacity, they have other attributes. For one thing, they are roomy and comfortable. There's no better place for my fat American ass than in the seat of an F-series. Also, they are Ford's flagship vehicle, so they get lots of attention and innovation. The modern ones have tons of cool tech, like a generator that can run your house, 360 cameras for backing up, a fold-flat seat, power ports, informative displays, etc. Also, a lot of people find them easier to get in and out of than a car. These days they can get mid-20s for freeway mileage, too. Honestly, the biggest downside they have is that they are so damn much money. But they only cost so much because people are willing to pay it.