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pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/23/13 10:27 p.m.

Two years ago, I came across a great deal on a pistol, a PX4-Storm SubCompact. I had owned Beretta's before, but only in 12 GA. I passed, because I knew little about handguns, but I was intrigued.

Fast forward 2 years and I had decided that I wanted a gun for home defense, As an early X-mas present, I decided to get something, and I researched and shot a lot of options. I finally decided that the best option for me, all things considered, was the PX4 Storm SubCompact. I pad $70 more than the kit that originally got this all started, and didn't get as much in the deal. Oh well, snooze you loose right?

The gun club 1 minute form my house is apparently only open to relatives of current members, and they have a full bar on site and there is a lot of drinking going on along with the shooting. Uh, no thanks. (and I might move) So I have to find a decent range somewhere.

EastCoastMojo
EastCoastMojo GRM+ Memberand Mod Squad
12/23/13 10:32 p.m.

Is this in anticipation of people attempting to steal your 2014 Kia Rondo?

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/23/13 10:43 p.m.

LOL!

drsmooth
drsmooth Reader
12/23/13 11:44 p.m.

I have never once thought of buying a gun for home, or self defense...

I have thought of buying one for blasting Varmints, Vittles, and blasting bottles and cans placed on a fence top..

Bobzilla
Bobzilla PowerDork
12/24/13 7:30 a.m.

I almost bought a friend's PX4 subcompact. Nice little pistol, but I;m still a 1911 guy at heart.

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
12/24/13 7:44 a.m.
drsmooth wrote: I have never once thought of buying a gun for home, or self defense...

...and thanks for floundering the thread within the first five posts.

I, for one, will not rise to the bait.

wbjones
wbjones PowerDork
12/24/13 7:50 a.m.
JoeyM wrote:
drsmooth wrote: I have never once thought of buying a gun for home, or self defense... I have thought of buying one for blasting Varmints, Vittles, and blasting bottles and cans placed on a fence top..
...and thanks for floundering the thread within the first five posts. I, for one, will not rise to the bait.

sometimes it depends on where you live … many yrs after we built our house, a prison was established across the road …. so home protection is a consideration … but I echo what JoeyM said

Bobzilla
Bobzilla PowerDork
12/24/13 8:17 a.m.
JoeyM wrote:
drsmooth wrote: I have never once thought of buying a gun for home, or self defense...
...and thanks for floundering the thread within the first five posts. I, for one, will not rise to the bait.

Which was why I chose to ignore the flounder.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant SuperDork
12/24/13 8:59 a.m.

How do you like the Beretta? Of that brand, I've only been around a Jetfire .25ACP, an early 92, and of course I carried the M9 (Commercial equivalent is the 92FS, IIRC) for a while. The M9 and 92 were not a good fit for my hand, but I shot them well enough.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp UltraDork
12/24/13 9:29 a.m.
slantvaliant wrote: How do you like the Beretta? Of that brand, I've only been around a Jetfire .25ACP, an early 92, and of course I carried the M9 (Commercial equivalent is the 92FS, IIRC) for a while. The M9 and 92 were not a good fit for my hand, but I shot them well enough.

Kinda interested to know myself. Only ever shot the 92FS and this little gem that was my favorite pistol when I was a kid.

The 92FS was ok but just not my thing.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla PowerDork
12/24/13 9:43 a.m.

The PX4 is still a pretty fat gun. Not as fat in the middle as the 92/M9, more like the Cougar that came out later. Uses the rotating breech deal, works well. Shoots nice.

Storz
Storz Dork
12/24/13 9:45 a.m.

Just picked up a gen4 glock 19 last week. It just may be the perfect pistol.

Gasoline
Gasoline SuperDork
12/24/13 9:47 a.m.

Wees Capital!

Will
Will Dork
12/24/13 9:53 a.m.

I'm thinking hard about picking up a Colt XSE after the holidays:

Bobzilla
Bobzilla PowerDork
12/24/13 10:04 a.m.
Will wrote: I'm thinking hard about picking up a Colt XSE after the holidays:

Unless, you have to have the Colt name, save yourself a few hundred and go with the Springfield Loaded. Same goodies as the XSE, but without the Colt Premium.

I love mine and it's the best $700 I've ever spent on a handgun.

Will
Will Dork
12/24/13 10:24 a.m.

In reply to Bobzilla:

Yeah, I kinda do want the Colt for the name factor. I have three other 1911s, and I want at least one Colt. If I were to get an SA it would probably be a TRP.

yamaha
yamaha PowerDork
12/24/13 4:25 p.m.

In reply to Bobzilla:

I'd rather buy a Rock Island than a springer...

fasted58
fasted58 PowerDork
12/24/13 7:33 p.m.

Quick google and this video says a lot:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBySM5KMYLc

Reading reviews makes my head spin sometimes though.

I have a Beretta 92D w/ laser and a Bobcat .22, like them both. 92D is home defense, has tritium sights but the laser really makes that gun for night use. Can carry the Bobcat in my pocket or throw in the tackle box, call it the summer gun. Neither is ideal for concealed carry tho. I probably wouldn't hesitate to own another Beretta based on past performance of these guns.

Been looking for a sub-compact 9mm, the PX4 may just fit the bill.

Be interesting to know what you think of it when you get some rounds through it. Is this going to be a carry gun?

Thanks for posting.

drsmooth
drsmooth Reader
12/25/13 3:20 a.m.
Bobzilla wrote:
JoeyM wrote:
drsmooth wrote: I have never once thought of buying a gun for home, or self defense...
...and thanks for floundering the thread within the first five posts. I, for one, will not rise to the bait.
Which was why I chose to ignore the flounder.

It's a new record!!!!

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
12/27/13 8:54 p.m.

I went with the PX4 SubCompact for a few basic reasons. There is a strong argument for and against every caliber, manufacturer, feature and style out there. So in the end, I ignored it all and got what I wanted. I shot Beretta 12GA when shooting trap and sheets (and birds) and I like the manufacturer.

While trying out other guns, I knew that the most important factor was a comfortable grip. The PX4 Sub Compact fit my hand better than anything else that I held. It has a fold-down extension on the clip that allows you to get all 4 fingers on the grip, and comes with 2 extra backstraps to customize the grip even further.

I wanted something small enough to be carried concealed if need be, but large enough to have some capacity. The subcompact was a good size, and being modular, it will hold magazines from the larger sizes and can be converted to the larger sizes. It has a relatively snag-free design as well.

While shopping, I shot .38, .9mm, and .40 and could live with any of them. I figured I would do a really small .38 (Sig Sauer) down the road as a CCW, and since the larger-capacity clips from the full size PX4 fit the sub compact, capacity wouldn't be an issue, so I went with .40. Good stopping power and less over-penetration according to the interwebs, but I put little faith in either. A 9mm would have been fine for me as well.

The thing that really sealed the deal was the safety features. I wanted an actual, physical safety with a red dot. Not many guns in this size have one, but for me, it was a necessity. It also functions as the decocking lever. The hammer is also visible, so I can easily see if the gun is cocked, half-cocked or not cocked. The firing pin block is also visible. Lots of visible and tactile safety features in one gun.

Icing on the cake, the gun can be field stripped without tools or small parts getting loose and has a front rail for a light or laser. The sub-compact does not have the rotating barrel design, which is either a really good thing or a disadvantage depending on who you believe. The basic ramp design seems to be pretty reliable, so it was not a concern to me.

Once I finish my class and find a decent place to shoot, I will report on how it handles.

The
The Reader
12/27/13 9:05 p.m.

where the air smelled like snakes and we'd shoot with our pistols, but empty pop bottles was all we would kill.......

Lancer007
Lancer007 Reader
12/27/13 9:12 p.m.

In reply to yamaha:

I have owned both. Nary a problem with either but for the price the Rock Island simply cannot be beat. Great way to get into the 1911 game.

Pinchvalve: kudos on el pistolo, a friend of mine has one and really likes it. I have yet to shoot one though.

nicksta43
nicksta43 UltraDork
12/28/13 1:31 a.m.

In reply to The:

Daddy won't you take me back to Muhlenberg County Down by the green river where paradise lay? Well, I'm sorry my son, but you're too late in asking Mister Peabody's coal train has hauled it away

m4ff3w
m4ff3w GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
12/28/13 7:08 a.m.
Bobzilla wrote: The PX4 is still a pretty fat gun. Not as fat in the middle as the 92/M9, more like the Cougar that came out later. Uses the rotating breech deal, works well. Shoots nice.

I don't think the SubCompact uses the rotating breech.

wbjones
wbjones PowerDork
12/28/13 8:19 a.m.
The wrote: where the air smelled like snakes and we'd shoot with our pistols, but empty pop bottles was all we would kill.......

yea John Prine (Paradise, is one of my all time favorite songs)

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