93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
3/29/12 7:48 p.m.

How bad are these welders really? Let's I say I just want one to learn with and do small jobs. I have access to a bunch of welders but they are a decent drive away.

Twin_Cam
Twin_Cam UltraDork
3/29/12 7:53 p.m.

I'm sure it's like everything else at Harbor Freight: it'll work, but won't be the best, and you'll eventually trade up to a better one.

I did use one of their welding helmets from approximately 3 minutes. Then it un-dimmed whilst my face was 9" from an arc. Yea, that got returned.

Ranger50
Ranger50 SuperDork
3/29/12 7:54 p.m.

I'd rather use JB Weld then a HF welder.

Derick Freese
Derick Freese SuperDork
3/29/12 7:55 p.m.

I paid $125 for my Lincoln flux core. It's the cheapest Lincoln out there, and it does so much nicer than a HF welder. Keep an eye out for lightly used stuff, and be ready to jump on the right deal.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess UltimaDork
3/29/12 7:56 p.m.

I've had good results with my HF MIG. I've been using it since the mid 90's. They tell me the newer ones are not the same as the one I have. I have 2 of the auto darkening HF helmets. Best thing for welding evar.

I have a Miller 230 amp AC stick (SMAW) welder for big stuff or when it absolutely positively has to stick.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic UltimaDork
3/29/12 8:00 p.m.

Can you trust used welders? It is sold now but I saw a Miller 110V MIG for $200.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 SuperDork
3/29/12 8:05 p.m.

I recently got the H-F FCAW welder. I also just got a visit from my brother who has taken many welding classes and has a Hobart Handler 187 MIG among others. He tried my welder and admitted that it wasn't nearly as big a berkeleying piece of E36 M3 as he had expected it to be.

I'm not sure if that qualifies as a favorable review, but there ya go!

ThePhranc
ThePhranc HalfDork
3/29/12 8:14 p.m.

I have an old one that fluctuates in output voltage some times after a lot of use.

GrantMLS
GrantMLS Reader
3/29/12 8:43 p.m.

In reply to 93EXCivic: I've always bought used ones. Good old welders last forever and someone is always upgrading.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand UberDork
3/29/12 8:59 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote: Can you trust used welders? It is sold now but I saw a Miller 110V MIG for $200.

I bought a used Hobart Handler 140 a couple of months ago to replace my Campbell Hausfeld. It's the best $200 I've spent in a long time. The difference between the two is like night and day.

LopRacer
LopRacer Reader
3/29/12 9:08 p.m.

I have a HF 220v stick welder I have used it a bit, but my cousin who used to be a prof. welder hs used it a good deal, he says it does a good job, we even used it to weld up my cage. I wouldn't want to use it in a professional capacity, but for home use it's great.

ronholm
ronholm Reader
3/29/12 9:19 p.m.

Name brand welders are cheaper to own.

Buy a used one. then use it.. and if you don't like it sell it for what you paid for it..

Buy a harbor freight welder.. and try to give it away... the trashman might take it..

Can you trust used welders? It is sold now but I saw a Miller 110V MIG for $200

Yep.. just be ready to move when another comes up... darn right it sold.. I don't need one..

Most welders are VERY simple machines.. Not much to break..

JoeyM
JoeyM SuperDork
3/29/12 9:20 p.m.

hess is right. those are decent helmets.

SupraWes
SupraWes Dork
3/30/12 3:22 p.m.

I bought one, used it to do a subframe repair on my E36 18 months ago. It worked, haven't plugged it in since. May use it again to install the header I just got for said car. But yeah couldn't justify spending $400 on a name brand welder considering my desire to weld is "only if I absolutely have to".

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