Why does one want to walk wings? Why force one's body from a plane to make a parachute jump? Why should man want to fly at all? People often ask these questions. But what civilization was not founded on adventure, and how long could one exist without it? Some answer the attainment of knowledge. Some say wealth, or power, is sufficient cause. I believe the risks I take are justified by the sheer love of the life I lead.
— Charles A. Lindbergh
The stories and memories are worth a few scars. Life is for living. Go do something stupid. That way when we meet in person he'll have something to talk about.
tr8todd wrote: Don't know who was driving, but I'd bet there's a good chance the cops referred to him as a John. Bring your kids to work day.
John Brown most likely......
dculberson wrote: I would rather die a boring death in 40 years than a spectacular death tomorrow. I didn't know dying was something we were all supposed to be trying to do. I take plenty of chances, but kind of disagree with some of the tone of this conversation. Calculated risk can be good, trying to kill yourself so you feel something in your strangely empty life is bad.
All risk is calculated and dying is not optional. You don't have to try at all and it is still going to happen. No one is advocating setting out to kill themselves - but sweet berkeleying christ - if a hangliding incident spares me another prolonged go with serious illness I'd be luckier for it.
All you humorless berkeleys who read emptiness into the life of every cheeky post on the internet should possibly examine the origin of that particular judgement. Maybe it's just more fun to live a little closer to the edge without dropping over and not in any way a validation that your own lives are somehow completely fulfilling. Or maybe it's a cry for help. Who knows.
OK, then... I'm going go ride wheelies while holding scissors. You guys get yourselves another copy of "the rules" and maybe some bubble wrap 
I like bubble wrap. It's noisy and annoying in just the right ways.
Sorry if I read your post(s) wrong. Few people would describe me as humorless, I believe.
Live life so that people won't have to lie at your funeral.
I rode to the ski resort on the roof of my buddy's cramit in a snowstorm, it was cold. We used to ski and snowboard behind cars. It's called natural selection.
sesto elemento wrote: I rode to the ski resort on the roof of my buddy's cramit in a snowstorm, it was cold. We used to ski and snowboard behind cars.
There is absolutely no similarity between the activities you describe above and the actions of a mother regarding her children, aged 3 and 5, and their alleged inclusion in the so-called trunk of a Corvette. If the children were not secured in properly installed child safety seats, she should be burned at the stake, or undergo whatever punishment is called for in these dark times.
I bet the kids loved it. You ever try to get a 5 year old to do something they don't want to do? God help you.
Man, you think neck tats and finger tats would indicate a stable, responsible woman.
In reply to 1988RedT2:
But there are some similarities. 20-30+ years ago, no one would have batted an eye about this, and more than enough people have survived to tell their tale. Now that children are bubblewrapped from birth and put on such special little pedestals, it keeps them ducked as they grow up and get into the real world.
Half the kids today are on anxiety meds and like to quote "under more stress than mental patients in the 60s" and for what? They're not allowed to be failed in school because it hurts their precious feelings, they don't even keep score in sports till junior high anymore because "everyone is a winner" and that's bullE36 M3 and not doing anyone, especially the older people who well be rendered into these kids care later in life, any favors. or employers trying to find competent employees instead of whiny brats who think they deserve 100k a year with a degree in dr who and no work experience.
Why be afraid of getting hurt or making an ass out of yourself? Have fun, be that guy missing a few fingers with a story to tell. We only get one chance at life, live it up. I didn't expect to see 29, and yet, here I am, shiny paint chip snacks, no seatbelt in the front seat, and a love of fire and explosions and I've survived. What's surpassing is I still have all my fingers. Of course, making fireworks at home as a teenager now will get you put in Leavenworth or gitmo, but it wasn't that long ago for me.
Whatever happened to "the kid who eats to many marbles doesn't grow up to have kids of his own"?
I'm not saying duct tape the car seat to the roof and go four wheeling, but holy E36 M3, relax some. I'm really not one to judge people on appearances, but that ugly of tattoo work and that big a smile in the mug shot, this isn't Martha Stewart, I think she's lucky the state hasn't taken her kids on any of her trips to jail or rehab.
Mom had a corvair, they hadn't invented child seats, dad let me ride on the parcel shelf of his 66 ventura. Granddad let me ride on the fender of the tractor and there were a thousand other ways to maim or kill yourself on the farm. Still here. Don't deny Darwin his opportunities.
dculberson wrote: I would rather die a boring death in 40 years than a spectacular death tomorrow. I didn't know dying was something we were all supposed to be trying to do.
I wonder if there's some conversational misunderstanding here. Not so much the death itself, but the life before the death?
Comparing situations from 30 or 40 years ago with today, and then getting all worked up out on either side of the story, is really tiresome.
GRM edition:
In reply to stuart in mn:
Are you unfamiliar with how the Internet works?
RevRico wrote: In reply to 1988RedT2: But there are some similarities. 20-30+ years ago, no one would have batted an eye about this, and more than enough people have survived to tell their tale. Now that children are bubblewrapped from birth and put on such special little pedestals, it keeps them ducked as they grow up and get into the real world. Half the kids today are on anxiety meds and like to quote "under more stress than mental patients in the 60s" and for what? They're not allowed to be failed in school because it hurts their precious feelings, they don't even keep score in sports till junior high anymore because "everyone is a winner" and that's bullE36 M3 and not doing anyone, especially the older people who well be rendered into these kids care later in life, any favors. or employers trying to find competent employees instead of whiny brats who think they deserve 100k a year with a degree in dr who and no work experience. Why be afraid of getting hurt or making an ass out of yourself? Have fun, be that guy missing a few fingers with a story to tell. We only get one chance at life, live it up. I didn't expect to see 29, and yet, here I am, shiny paint chip snacks, no seatbelt in the front seat, and a love of fire and explosions and I've survived. What's surpassing is I still have all my fingers. Of course, making fireworks at home as a teenager now will get you put in Leavenworth or gitmo, but it wasn't that long ago for me. Whatever happened to "the kid who eats to many marbles doesn't grow up to have kids of his own"? I'm not saying duct tape the car seat to the roof and go four wheeling, but holy E36 M3, relax some. I'm really not one to judge people on appearances, but that ugly of tattoo work and that big a smile in the mug shot, this isn't Martha Stewart, I think she's lucky the state hasn't taken her kids on any of her trips to jail or rehab.
The naivety of your post tells me you have no children. This stupid BS going around (especially here) about how kids' sports don't use scoring or grade school kids don't get graded is just plain ignorance.
Yes, the really young pee-wee sports don't use scores, that's because they are trying to teach the logistics and techniques of the games without the distraction. My 7yo played a soccer league without official scoring, trust me the kids kept score on their own. Why? Because they are little kids that need to learn the basics, not because they have fragile egos. The next season they were keeping score and and had tournaments. Guess what? They didn't hand out medals or trophies to the losers either. I've had coaches that decided to give out "medals" at the end of season for keepsakes, but not to declare "everyone a winner". Maybe kids deserve recognition for putting in the time and effort of practicing twice a week and playing a dozen competitive games? Maybe it's cool for them to have a trinket to remember the season they got play with close friends when they were young?
My kids have been to private and public schools and they all graded and always got marked down for lack of work/participation.
Where is this bubble wrapped world everyone speaks of?
You do realize that seat belt laws, child seat laws, DUI laws, passengers in truck bed laws are a reaction to large amounts of people dying right? "I didn't die when I did that as a kid" has to be the stupidest argument out there. Besides being completely anecdotal, the people who did die or became vegetables aren't exactly around to comment themselves.
When you have kids feel free to feed them marbles, give them loaded guns to play with, leash them to the bed of your pickup, and leave them in parked cars with the windows rolled up. Don't let common sense or laws get in the way of Darwinism OK?
In reply to 1988RedT2:
By that rational, at least half of the forum members parents would be a barbecue.
In reply to RevRico:
I agree with much that you say. The biggest issue I have with most of this thread is that people are saying these kids should "live a little" and comparing them to reckless teenagers. These kids were 3 and 5! They should be afforded the safest possible passage on Mom's trip to the meth store. There are laws that dictate what is acceptable for child seats in cars. She was not in compliance.
We should be careful about choosing which laws we will obey and which laws we will disregard. It's something of a slippery slope.
This threads gettin a little too real for me.
Her mugshot says "I make terrible decisions, but I keep a positive outlook" I like it. She should use it for her christianmingle profile pic.
I wouldn't mind spending an hour with her
Appleseed wrote: In reply to 1988RedT2: By that rational, at least half of the forum members parents would be a barbecue.
I disagree. Their actions likely preceded any laws making them illegal. Some children died, some laws were written. Times have changed.
I feel that child safety seats and seatbelt laws are reasonable and compliance is not a burden.
The area she's from is true redneck country. Central PA is as rural as parts of Mississippi. Only reason those kids were in the back of the Corvette (bet it's an early C4) were because the '83 F-150 pick 'um up truck was still in Cooters' shop. Otherwise, they'd have been in the bed of it.
And you can only see the neck and hand tattoos. I wouldn't even want to guess what's under the clothes...
In reply to Brian:
I mean, she's not a bad looking gal and all, and she certainly appears as if she enjoys a good time with no berkeleys given, but by that same token I would put the likelihood of there being intravenous drug use in her past at greater than 50%. Bit of a turn off for me, thank you very much.
Brian wrote: I wouldn't mind spending an hour with her
Yeah, but it will cost you.
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