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Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
10/11/14 10:48 a.m.

This might be old news to some of you but I just stumbled upon it while reading another article. WTF!

'Anti-Propaganda' Ban Repealed, Freeing State Dept. To Direct Its Broadcasting Arm At American Citizens

For decades, a so-called anti-propaganda law prevented the U.S. government's mammoth broadcasting arm from delivering programming to American audiences. But on July 2, that came silently to an end with the implementation of a new reform passed in January. The result: an unleashing of thousands of hours per week of government-funded radio and TV programs for domestic U.S. consumption in a reform initially criticized as a green light for U.S. domestic propaganda efforts.

Full Article on techdirt.com

I wonder if they will call it the Ministry of Enlightenment and Propaganda?

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
10/11/14 11:22 a.m.

War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength.

HappyAndy
HappyAndy UltraDork
10/11/14 11:45 a.m.

HappyAndy
HappyAndy UltraDork
10/11/14 11:48 a.m.

pres589
pres589 UltraDork
10/11/14 12:17 p.m.

In reply to Giant Purple Snorklewacker:

I think this has been going on for a long time. Witness: coverage of events & clashes in the Middle East.

1988RedT2
1988RedT2 PowerDork
10/11/14 1:19 p.m.

Yawn. If all the Govt. aims at its citizens is propaganda, then I'd call it good.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
10/11/14 2:10 p.m.
HappyAndy wrote:

Common misconception, it wasn't prophetic. It was based on the events he saw going on around him at the time. All he did was reorder the year; '48 -> '84.

oldsaw
oldsaw UltimaDork
10/11/14 2:17 p.m.

So people are worried that three months ago the State Dept was allowed to legally distribute domestic propaganda? Hasn't this been going on for, like, ever?

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/11/14 2:40 p.m.
Beer Baron wrote: Common misconception, it wasn't prophetic. It was based on the events he saw going on around him at the time. All he did was reorder the year; '48 -> '84.

The USSR are our allies against the forces in Europe!

sound of record scratching

The USSR are our enemies threatening our allies in Europe!

novaderrik
novaderrik PowerDork
10/11/14 6:47 p.m.
1988RedT2 wrote: Yawn. If all the Govt. aims at its citizens is propaganda, then I'd call it good.

they use the propaganda so they don't have to aim anything else at us..

irish44j
irish44j PowerDork
10/11/14 6:55 p.m.

If government propaganda toward the US works as badly as it has when directed towards other countries, I wouldn't be too worried....

novaderrik
novaderrik PowerDork
10/11/14 7:26 p.m.

it's already working pretty damn good on most people.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/12/14 8:36 a.m.
novaderrik wrote: it's already working pretty damn good on most people.

quoted for truth

LopRacer
LopRacer Dork
10/12/14 10:22 a.m.
mad_machine wrote:
novaderrik wrote: it's already working pretty damn good on most people.
quoted for truth

I sadly have to agree. I don't know that to believe anymore on the news or on the net.

NOHOME
NOHOME SuperDork
10/12/14 10:43 a.m.

When you consider that the borders have pretty much become the equivalent of checkpoint Charlie this new development should not surprise anyone.

It might not be obvious from within, but a lot of the world looking from the outside of the fishbowl is wondering WTF? is going on in there?

How soon before Americans are not allowed to leave the country at all "For their own safety"?

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
10/12/14 11:06 a.m.

This is interesting..

Someone finds obscure news site that references some very odd rule change in congress that no real news outlet has covered since 2012 and because it's about propaganda assumes that the fact noone has covered it or cares is because they are being lied to...

Let the crazy circular argument commence..

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
10/12/14 11:13 a.m.

In reply to Fueled by Caffeine:

It was also covered by foreign media but not ours. Huh. Go figure. Tech dirt isn't that obscure but if you Google you can find it on page six level coverage from cnn and ap too.

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
10/12/14 11:23 a.m.

The government is now distributing propaganda?

Well, they are WAY behind a bunch of "news" and radio shows! (and online etc.)

If you think propaganda is only coming from the government, you are being very naive.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron UltimaDork
10/12/14 11:29 a.m.
aircooled wrote: The government is now distributing propaganda? Well, they are WAY behind a bunch of "news" and radio shows! If you think propaganda is only coming from the government, you are being very naive.

Yup. Plus the advertisements for military recruiting are great propaganda pieces as well. I love the not-so-subtle messages: "Join the Army/Navy/Airforce/Marines. You'll spend your time delivering aid to 3rd world countries. No. Really. You won't go into situations where you get shot at and shoot back at people who look like civilians. We promise!"

rotard
rotard Dork
10/12/14 11:37 a.m.
Beer Baron wrote:
aircooled wrote: The government is now distributing propaganda? Well, they are WAY behind a bunch of "news" and radio shows! If you think propaganda is only coming from the government, you are being very naive.
Yup. Plus the advertisements for military recruiting are great propaganda pieces as well. I love the not-so-subtle messages: "Join the Army/Navy/Airforce/Marines. You'll spend your time delivering aid to 3rd world countries. No. Really. You won't go into situations where you get shot at and shoot back at people who look like civilians. We promise!"

I agree with you to am extent. However, from my own personal experience in Iraq, I spent far more time helping the locals than fighting them.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn PowerDork
10/12/14 3:22 p.m.

It appears the ruling has to do mainly with Voice of America and Radio Free Europe, which very few people in the US have probably ever listened to anyway.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker MegaDork
10/12/14 4:54 p.m.
stuart in mn wrote: It appears the ruling has to do mainly with Voice of America and Radio Free Europe, which very few people in the US have probably ever listened to anyway.

Sure... Who do you work for? Is that you Gobbels?

stuart in mn
stuart in mn PowerDork
10/12/14 7:19 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Sure... Who do you work for? Is that you Gobbels?

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
10/12/14 7:30 p.m.

Were're being lied to..

because no one is talking about it..

We're being lied to..

aircooled
aircooled UltimaDork
10/13/14 12:19 a.m.
stuart in mn wrote:
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Sure... Who do you work for? Is that you Gobbels?
What the hell is that supposed to mean?

I am pretty sure he means Joseph Goebbels:

not Gobbels:

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