GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE UltraDork
8/2/23 11:59 p.m.

I know that broken refrigerators, dryers and washers are good sources of plate steel, but what about tube steel? Are things like futon and bed frames thick enough to act for roll cages? Or are there better sources?

Apexcarver
Apexcarver UltimaDork
8/3/23 3:44 a.m.

I don't think I would want to source scrap with any question to type/quality for a safety critical structure. Anyplace that requires a cage tends to be very explicit about the type/thickness required, so I don't know that it's possible.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/3/23 9:18 a.m.

Yeah that's a big no on cages.

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE UltraDork
8/3/23 12:26 p.m.

Dang. Okay, thanks.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
8/3/23 12:43 p.m.

Yeah, don't use that for safety stuff. 

However, there are plenty of other non-structural uses you can use it for.  Grab all you can.

Patrick
Patrick GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/3/23 3:01 p.m.

Bicycles and treadmills are a good source of tubes of all varieties for things like transmission crossmembers or brackets but the only cage tubing I would salvage is from another cage. 

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/3/23 3:53 p.m.

Also, bed frames are the most awful things to work with on the planet. 

I will reuse a lot of things but I hope I never try to reuse another bed frame. 

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/3/23 3:58 p.m.
Robbie (Forum Supporter) said:

Also, bed frames are the most awful things to work with on the planet. 

I will reuse a lot of things but I hope I never try to reuse another bed frame. 

Interesting to hear you say that. I stop and pick up every bed frame I see. They are some of the best steel you will find on a scrap heap. Pound for pound it is extremely strong. 

I also haven't found it to be that difficult to work with. You do need quality drill bits and cutting tools. They will dull junk almost instantly. 

 

 

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/3/23 5:46 p.m.

In reply to Toyman! :

Got to agree with you as I use junk and they dull them instantly.  Still use them a lot.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
8/3/23 7:07 p.m.
Robbie (Forum Supporter) said:

Also, bed frames are the most awful things to work with on the planet. 

I will reuse a lot of things but I hope I never try to reuse another bed frame. 

Man.  Not been my experience. They do great with a flux core welder or a TIG.  My little porto-band table setup does a great job of shaping it.  I love the stuff.

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/3/23 7:59 p.m.
Toyman! said:
Robbie (Forum Supporter) said:

Also, bed frames are the most awful things to work with on the planet. 

I will reuse a lot of things but I hope I never try to reuse another bed frame. 

Interesting to hear you say that. I stop and pick up every bed frame I see. They are some of the best steel you will find on a scrap heap. Pound for pound it is extremely strong. 

I also haven't found it to be that difficult to work with. You do need quality drill bits and cutting tools. They will dull junk almost instantly. 

 

 

Erm, well, what drill bits do you use?

I think the steel in bed frames is generally hardened quite a bit and therefore seems "strong", but remember it is also brittle. 

Mr asa, my main issue is drilling holes in the stuff. Which I've found next to impossible above about 1/4 inch holes.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
8/3/23 8:03 p.m.

In reply to Robbie (Forum Supporter) :

I don't know that I've done much hole drilling.  When I do I do a pilot hole and step it up appropriately. 

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/3/23 8:20 p.m.

In reply to Robbie (Forum Supporter) :

20 ton Roper Whitney

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UltimaDork
8/3/23 8:31 p.m.

In reply to Stampie :

LOL.

That'll do it

wheels777
wheels777 UltraDork
8/4/23 3:52 p.m.
Patrick said:

Bicycles and treadmills are a good source of tubes of all varieties for things like transmission crossmembers or brackets but the only cage tubing I would salvage is from another cage. 

Agreed. It is amazing how many MS cages are being cut out and scraped in favor of a CM cage. We have 4 or 5 here now.  All but one was a cut our for an upgrade. One was a cut out to put the car back on the street. Check local shops. They need the Scrap to be hauled away. 

Toyman!
Toyman! GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/4/23 4:01 p.m.
Robbie (Forum Supporter) said:
Toyman! said:
Robbie (Forum Supporter) said:

Also, bed frames are the most awful things to work with on the planet. 

I will reuse a lot of things but I hope I never try to reuse another bed frame. 

Interesting to hear you say that. I stop and pick up every bed frame I see. They are some of the best steel you will find on a scrap heap. Pound for pound it is extremely strong. 

I also haven't found it to be that difficult to work with. You do need quality drill bits and cutting tools. They will dull junk almost instantly. 

 

 

Erm, well, what drill bits do you use?

I think the steel in bed frames is generally hardened quite a bit and therefore seems "strong", but remember it is also brittle. 

Mr asa, my main issue is drilling holes in the stuff. Which I've found next to impossible above about 1/4 inch holes.

Irwin. Turn it at a reasonable speed and keep it lubed with cutting oil. 

 

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE UltraDork
8/8/23 9:55 a.m.
wheels777 said:
Patrick said:

Bicycles and treadmills are a good source of tubes of all varieties for things like transmission crossmembers or brackets but the only cage tubing I would salvage is from another cage. 

Agreed. It is amazing how many MS cages are being cut out and scraped in favor of a CM cage. We have 4 or 5 here now.  All but one was a cut our for an upgrade. One was a cut out to put the car back on the street. Check local shops. They need the Scrap to be hauled away. 

Okay, I'll call around thanks.

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