NickD
NickD HalfDork
1/28/16 12:19 p.m.

A chance to compete in seriours style. I'd honestly really like this, but have no room. Somebody buy it so I can live vicariously through you.

dculberson
dculberson UberDork
1/28/16 1:25 p.m.

I didn't even know they made these as late as 1994.

NickD
NickD HalfDork
1/28/16 1:47 p.m.

Yeah, 1994 was the last year. The Justy was the last holdout of the old-style Subarus, with the EA82s getting replaced after 1993 by the Impreza

For those needing inspiration, someone built an STi-swapped Justy. That has to be a real firecracker.

mfennell
mfennell Reader
1/28/16 1:54 p.m.

Wow. I had an '88 winter beater for several years. It had been in my wife's family since new. By the time I brought it to the junkywad, compression was 30/60/90 psi across the 3 cylinders!

XLR99
XLR99 GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
1/28/16 5:36 p.m.

I really, really want to buy that (the red one, can't afford anything with 'STi' in the description, although the extra 250hp would be nice), add snow tires, and go roosting around tormenting bro-tards next time it snows.

fasted58
fasted58 UltimaDork
1/28/16 5:43 p.m.

i can dig it

wonder if that drive line would fit in a Midget

NordicSaab
NordicSaab Reader
1/28/16 5:48 p.m.

Is it sad that I can take one look at those seats and tell they are from a mid 90's Camaro/Firebird... im a dork.

Sil80redtop
Sil80redtop HalfDork
1/28/16 10:39 p.m.

Winter beater without heat sounds like a bad combo.

NickD
NickD HalfDork
1/29/16 5:25 a.m.
Sil80redtop wrote: Winter beater without heat sounds like a bad combo.

I drove my beater 1993 Loyale for 3 NY winters without any heat.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/29/16 8:30 a.m.

The good thing about the seats is that if you want to change the color it is but a junkyard away.

NickD
NickD HalfDork
1/29/16 12:28 p.m.
dean1484 wrote: The good thing about the seats is that if you want to change the color it is but a junkyard away.

Who would want to toss those pimpin' white seats? Hahaha.

92dxman
92dxman SuperDork
1/29/16 3:16 p.m.

These looked like more upmarket Yugo GV's..

einy
einy Reader
1/29/16 3:45 p.m.
NordicSaab wrote: Is it sad that I can take one look at those seats and tell they are from a mid 90's Camaro/Firebird... im a dork.

Glad to hear I am not the only one !!!

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
1/29/16 5:57 p.m.

"Fuel injected" is kind of a weird phrase on these.

Yes, they have injectors, but they squirt into the carburetor like throttle body injection, and have no electronic controls. They are vacuum actuated, have a spaghetti mess of vacuum hoses. They are a PITA. I've never seen one run well, nor met anyone who had a clue how to tune one.

I have one in my backyard. Used to have the STI motor for it too, but that was a project that never happened.

The push button 4WD is very amusing.

paranoid_android74
paranoid_android74 Dork
1/29/16 7:48 p.m.

That looks like a surprisingly un-rusty Justy.

Philly isn't part of the rust belt?

84FSP
84FSP HalfDork
1/29/16 9:18 p.m.

In reply to NickD:

Nice and angry looking animal.

NickD
NickD HalfDork
1/30/16 6:42 a.m.
SVreX wrote: "Fuel injected" is kind of a weird phrase on these. Yes, they have injectors, but they squirt into the carburetor like throttle body injection, and have no electronic controls. They are vacuum actuated, have a spaghetti mess of vacuum hoses. They are a PITA. I've never seen one run well, nor met anyone who had a clue how to tune one. I have one in my backyard. Used to have the STI motor for it too, but that was a project that never happened. The push button 4WD is very amusing.

The EA82 uses a similar setup and mine runs like a top. A noisy, clattery, slow top, but I've never had to touch it. And the 4WD is great to have.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
1/30/16 8:07 a.m.

The EA82 and the EF12 injections are kinda similar in theory, but there are no similarities in the engines. One is a flat 4 cylinder mounted longitudally, the other is a V-3 cylinder mounted transversely. The EA series was the predecessor to the EJ, so there was lots of reason to keep it around. The EF was a one-off.

There is still lots of support out there for the EA82. Pretty much nothing for the EF12, including the dealerships.

You are correct that the theory is similar, but that doesn't help a lot for tuning. Still need some knowledge of which vacuum line does what. I've owned a Justy for 10 years and had a lot of trouble finding help with this. It's not well supported.

But the push button 4WD is amusing.

Tom_Spangler
Tom_Spangler GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
1/30/16 8:27 a.m.

Ah, yes. I had a 1990 Justy for a winter beater in the late 90s. Little tin box with no power and the roughest engine I ever had in a car. Sitting idling at a light my keys would rattle in the ignition because the whole car vibrated so much. But, it was unstoppable and cheap.

NickD
NickD HalfDork
1/30/16 8:37 a.m.
SVreX wrote: The EA82 and the EF12 injections are kinda similar in theory, but there are no similarities in the engines. One is a flat 4 cylinder mounted longitudally, the other is a V-3 cylinder mounted transversely. The EA series was the predecessor to the EJ, so there was lots of reason to keep it around. The EF was a one-off. There is still lots of support out there for the EA82. Pretty much nothing for the EF12, including the dealerships. You are correct that the theory is similar, but that doesn't help a lot for tuning. Still need some knowledge of which vacuum line does what. I've owned a Justy for 10 years and had a lot of trouble finding help with this. It's not well supported. But the push button 4WD is amusing.

Oh, I know that the engines share know parts, I was just remarking that the "E"FI was similar.

I remember we were in logging in a real muddy area and we were using the truck to carry wood out and the Loyale was being used to transport people and tools in and out. My father drove the truck out to the road because the 4WD was kind of janky and I followed him out with the Loyale. We swapped vehicles, I ran the load of wood to it's delivery and came back in with the truck and he goes "How do you know when that Subaru is in 4WD?" and I explained that the 4WD logo lights up in the dash. He pauses and goes "Oh, well, that thing will go through some serious mud in 2WD then."

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/30/16 9:59 a.m.
NickD wrote: Yeah, 1994 was the last year. The Justy was the last holdout of the old-style Subarus, with the EA82s getting replaced after 1993 by the Impreza

You're thinking Loyale.

The Justy was a transverse inline three.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/30/16 10:03 a.m.
SVreX wrote: The EA82 and the EF12 injections are kinda similar in theory, but there are no similarities in the engines. One is a flat 4 cylinder mounted longitudally, the other is a V-3 cylinder mounted transversely. The EA series was the predecessor to the EJ, so there was lots of reason to keep it around. The EF was a one-off. There is still lots of support out there for the EA82. Pretty much nothing for the EF12, including the dealerships. You are correct that the theory is similar, but that doesn't help a lot for tuning. Still need some knowledge of which vacuum line does what. I've owned a Justy for 10 years and had a lot of trouble finding help with this. It's not well supported.

I don't know what you guys are talking about with respect to the Justy engine controls, but I lived with an injected EA82 for a long while. It's definitely computer controlled. It's more or less bog standard Bosch LH-Jet processed via Hitachi. Nothing weird about it at all.

NickD
NickD HalfDork
1/30/16 11:00 a.m.
Knurled wrote:
NickD wrote: Yeah, 1994 was the last year. The Justy was the last holdout of the old-style Subarus, with the EA82s getting replaced after 1993 by the Impreza
You're thinking Loyale. The Justy was a transverse inline three.

I know the Justy was an inline-3 and wasn't implying it was related to the EA82. I meant it was the last of the older style of Subarus. The pre-Legacy, pre-Impreza era Subaru.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/30/16 11:48 a.m.

Oddly enough, Legacy and Impreza are pretty close to DL/GL/Loyale, chassis wise. Subaru started with that chassis and built upon it, the Legacy was not a clean sheet design.

Subaru reminds me of AMC that way. They never really built anything "new" after the '59 Rambler, they just made detail changes

tdrrally
tdrrally Reader
2/1/16 2:00 p.m.

i really want that justy ! but i have too many now

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