jstancel
jstancel Reader
10/10/16 1:15 p.m.

The Miata truck project can't roll around on 4x100. I need to fit some classic hot rod wheels.

Does anybody have some inexpensive wheel adapters?

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/10/16 2:40 p.m.

4x100 to 4x114.3 is more common and would allow the old mustang 4 bolt wheels.

pres589
pres589 UberDork
10/10/16 2:42 p.m.

Eww, going from a 4 bolt hub to a 5 bolt wheel? I agree with the suggestion to go up to 4x114.3's for Ford wheel options. Fox-body interchange is your friend here.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin PowerDork
10/10/16 2:45 p.m.

4x114.3 is a terrible wheel size.

singleslammer
singleslammer PowerDork
10/10/16 2:50 p.m.

Foxbody bolt pattern is 4x108

Link

jstancel
jstancel Reader
10/10/16 2:54 p.m.

The goal is Slots or Cragars for the street and Salad Shooters for grip.

4x114.3 is just as bad 4x100 for decent classic wheels.

Stefan (Not Bruce)
Stefan (Not Bruce) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/10/16 2:55 p.m.

Or just order similar wheels in 4x100 as it is one of the more common wheel patterns in the world.

pres589
pres589 UberDork
10/10/16 2:55 p.m.

Gah, that's what I get for not doing my own homework.

singleslammer
singleslammer PowerDork
10/10/16 3:02 p.m.

You were right though. The Foxbody 4 bolt is as good as it gets. Not good compared to 5 lug though

jstancel
jstancel Reader
10/10/16 3:29 p.m.

5x120 and 5x114 are pretty much the best options to get wheels that match the style of my truck. 4x100 is only going to get me steel wheels and I hate steel wheels. That would be the last resort.

For reference the wheels and adapters are for this:

20161009_164839

singleslammer
singleslammer PowerDork
10/10/16 4:33 p.m.

Changing the number of lugs with adapters is pretty hard. Have you looked to see if anyone sells these new?

Edit: they do. It appears that the vw crowd likes these. Most were in the over $200 range. Probably going to have to troll those forums for a cheap set of these.

Also, steels fit that truck. Sorry but those make the most sense.

chandlerGTi
chandlerGTi UberDork
10/10/16 4:34 p.m.

http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90466

Thought of you, this would be mustang stuff...

Stefan (Not Bruce)
Stefan (Not Bruce) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/10/16 4:41 p.m.

You need to look harder:

Cragar SS in 4x100

LMGTFY

jimbob_racing
jimbob_racing Dork
10/10/16 4:47 p.m.

4x114.3 gets you all sorts of old Datsun wheels. You'll probably be able to find a bunch of 14 and 15 inch wheels sets from the 70s for next to nothing.

jstancel
jstancel Reader
10/10/16 5:35 p.m.
Stefan (Not Bruce) wrote: You need to look harder: Cragar SS in 4x100 LMGTFY

Congrats on finding these terrible looking wheels that are in no way true to the original style. Please take the trolling somewhere else.

I have a simple request for adapters. If I can't find some reasonably priced I will change plans but for now the only help I need is with spacers

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/10/16 5:39 p.m.

In reply to singleslammer:

I stand corrected sir. Somehow I confused the Mustang pattern with a 4 X 114.3 search I've been doing.

Stefan (Not Bruce)
Stefan (Not Bruce) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/10/16 5:44 p.m.

In reply to jstancel:

Not trolling, just suggesting that you've not done your research thoroughly and ultimately trying to solve your problem without resorting to adding more rotating and unsprung mass to your suspension, which the Miata can ill afford.

Aside from the color, I don't see how those are different in style than the E36 M3ty chrome plated pieces of junk Cragar pumped out for decades to v8 knuckle draggers.

pres589
pres589 UberDork
10/10/16 5:48 p.m.

American Racing Libre's came in 4x100 and would probably look decent. They won't be cheap unless the finish is completely trashed though.

Don't shoot me, but what about Moon-style disc wheel covers? Rarely would I suggest this but on this kind of build I think they work. Slot mags would be cool but I think you're dealing with size/offset/etc availability issues. And cost.

jstancel
jstancel Reader
10/10/16 5:51 p.m.
Stefan (Not Bruce) wrote: In reply to jstancel: Not trolling, just suggesting that you've not done your research thoroughly and ultimately trying to solve your problem without resorting to adding more rotating and unsprung mass to your suspension, which the Miata can ill afford. Aside from the color, I don't see how those are different in style than the E36 M3ty chrome plated pieces of junk Cragar pumped out for decades to v8 knuckle draggers.

How can you assume the amount of research I have done? Nothing about my build makes sense. Did you see the picture? I am making a ridiculous Miata truck, logic went out the window long ago.

If you don't have adapters then you are of no help with my request.

Cactus
Cactus Reader
10/10/16 7:07 p.m.

https://www.ecstuning.com/BMW-E30-325i-M20_2.5L/Wheels/Adapters/ES3078948/

No affiliation, I just knew I could find some there. Other spacing appears to be available.

RealMiniParker
RealMiniParker UberDork
10/11/16 8:10 a.m.

Adapters, but not exactly cheap

But, I gotta agree with singles lambert. That would look right proper on steelies.

Doh! Same thing that Cactus posted.

Burrito
Burrito Dork
10/11/16 8:52 a.m.

I made a set from scratch about 6 or 7 years ago. You couldn't find them anywhere back then, before the stance thing really took off and became what it is today. I will say that if I were to do it again, I would just send MotorSport Tech all of my money and be done with it, even if I still had access to machine tools.

That offset plug stuff was a PITA.

Stefan (Not Bruce)
Stefan (Not Bruce) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/11/16 9:23 a.m.

In reply to jstancel:

because you're asking about adapters still, instead of just buying wheels.

I've proven with a little research that there are other options available in similar styles that you're looking for and perhaps with less potentially expensive 4-lug to 4-lug adapters.

Honestly, I'm just trying to help. You're the one getting all butthurt over some help. That is the way things work around here, we offer help to solve the problem and look at challenges differently to come up with alternative solutions. You can choose to listen to them if you like, there's no law that says otherwise. Calm down and skip my posts if they spike your blood pressure. Sheesh.

jstancel
jstancel Reader
10/11/16 11:17 a.m.

In reply to Stefan (Not Bruce):

GRM is the place to find off the wall weird parts and that is why I threw out a crazy request for adapters. With all the weird stuff that is built I figured I would see if anyone had adapters from a past build.

Of course there are plenty of 4x100 options and I've looked at and owned my fair share of them but for this build it is my last resort.

I want old school wheels (not buying new) to go with my old school body.

There are write ups on using RX7, Probe, and Protege parts to convert hubs to 5x114 which I am also considering if I cant find a cheap 5x120 solution.

Wheels are actually the last piece of the puzzle and I still have a ton to do to the project. I put a line out and if anyone bites offering up affordable adapters then I will get them. If not, I will reassess.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
10/11/16 11:24 a.m.

In reply to Burrito:

What he said - I looked at these back when I had my E30. Wasn't convinced they would hold up to auto-x/track use, so I didn't pursue it any further.

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