Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/13/13 3:11 p.m.

This is not exactly a secret for the GRM peeps. But just to make it official-like:

We haven't been this excited about a new product for a while. Seriously, a few of the FM staff are looking at their own Miatas in a different light right now.

Flyin' Miata Exocet

The Exocet first appeared a few years ago in the UK. It's basically a space frame that takes the "rollerskate" from an NA or NB Miata, bolting directly on to the front and rear subframes. You simply lift the Miata body off the drivetrain and suspension and drop the space frame on top. Voila, you've lost about 800 lbs of weight while keeping the Miata's excellent handling. There are about 450 of them terrorizing UK roads and racetracks, as well as a handful in the US.

Exomotive, the US importer, decided to take a second look at the frame and have come up with a new design that is dramatically stiffer than the original while also incorporating improved safety. This new design is being produced in Atlanta, Georgia. We've been talking to them over the course of development, and the first of the US-built customer frames will be our shop car.

We'll be selling kits, pallet donors and turn-key cars. So you can take apart a Miata and build your own, order everything you'll need in one big package or simply drop by FM and pick up your new car.

Naturally, we're going to develop some Exocet-specific parts to make the build even more successful. Once we've built our test car we'll have a better idea of what that might be, but we've got some ideas already. We'll also be able to help with setup of your own Exocet so you extract the maximum performance out of the critter.

Prices start at $5999 plus shipping.

Have any questions? Check out our FAQ. Feel free to ask more here, it's a work in progress. The big ones? Yes, an LS3 will fit. And yes, an FM turbo kit will fit just fine. The Exomotive demo car runs one.

Here's some on-track video we put together of the Exomotive car when it visited our Summer Camp last week. This particular car is missing all the bodywork and sports the optional rear wing mount. We had to use a 480 hp V8 Miata as a camera platform. Exocet on video!

Cotton
Cotton SuperDork
8/13/13 11:19 p.m.

Very Cool. I'm really considering building one.

SnowMongoose
SnowMongoose Reader
8/13/13 11:27 p.m.

Power/Goat eligible?
Either way, cool offering on top of your... other cool offerings.

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
8/14/13 12:31 a.m.

If an individual ordered one when would they receive it?

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
8/14/13 2:47 a.m.

I figured this was why you were documenting (let's be honest: hyping) the car so well.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/14/13 9:38 a.m.

Mongoose, goats are still included.

Nocones, I think the wait right now is about 12 weeks. Lots of pent up demand as production is really only just getting rolling in Georgia.

It's been a bit of an open secret to be sure. Heck, the relationship between FM and Exomotive more or less came about because of the GRM forum. It's why there are so many FM parts on Exomotive's XP3, and why that car made the trip to our Summer Camp - that took a not-insignificant level of effort.

Right now, we're trying to figure out what the spec of the FM car is going to be. Do we build it with a turbo right from the start because, well, it's gonna happen anyhow - or do we build it as a more standard car first?

Xceler8x
Xceler8x GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
8/14/13 9:44 a.m.

Oh E36 M3. I'm only $6k and a rusty donor Miata away from this insanity? Nice...

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
8/14/13 9:50 a.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: Heck, the relationship between FM and Exomotive more or less came about because of the GRM forum. It's why there are so many FM parts on Exomotive's XP3, and why that car made the trip to our Summer Camp - that took a not-insignificant level of effort.

As a forum nerd, thanks for acknowledging it (....even though I know that my comments had nothing to do with this, it is nice to know that the comments of other GRMers were important)

BTW, it is a natural fit to have a miata-based kit company and a miata tuning/modding company work together......you guys will make some SERIOUS cars.

[...and I've already said this in another thread, but the jag-a-like body is gorgeous.]

Apexcarver
Apexcarver PowerDork
8/14/13 10:14 a.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: Right now, we're trying to figure out what the spec of the FM car is going to be. Do we build it with a turbo right from the start because, well, it's gonna happen anyhow - or do we build it as a more standard car first?

Eventually it must wind up with a V8.

That said, take it in stages so you get basis numbers for each trim.

But seriously, eventually you must fufill my dream of 500hp LSx with bias ply slicks and large wings.

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand UberDork
8/14/13 10:17 a.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: Right now, we're trying to figure out what the spec of the FM car is going to be. Do we build it with a turbo right from the start because, well, it's gonna happen anyhow - or do we build it as a more standard car first?

For what my opinion is worth (very little), I would think it would make sense to build the car up over time. Start with stock Miata components, in order to get a great baseline. For folks on a tight budget, that may be plenty. Then, go turbo and see where it ends up. Eventually, as Apexcarver noted, go V8 and see what happens!

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/14/13 10:28 a.m.

We know how it works with a turbo, thanks to our experience with Exomotive's XP3. The answer is: very well As for the V8, we'll happily build one for customers but I'm not sure that's a car anyone at FM feels we need quite yet. Contrary to what you might think, we are fans of balanced cars at FM, and I'd want to spend a bit more time with setting up the Exocet chassis before dropping in that much torque.

The only reason I think we'd start off naturally aspirated is so we can deal with issues that other builders might find, such as exhaust and intake plumbing. But even then, we know the turbo exhaust setup is plumbed the same as stock, and it would only take about 30 minutes to mock up the N/A intake. So what's the benefit exactly? Cornerweights, that's about all I can think of. Since we don't do 0-60 and 1/4 mile testing (too driver/tire/weather/altitude/post-run processing dependent), that wouldn't be a factor.

Our Westfield started as a 1.6, got swapped to a 1.8 and then turbocharged. Nobody remembers the first two iterations at all

It's funny, if you read the Exocet Spec A reveal thread, you can see the connection come together.

Warren v
Warren v Reader
8/14/13 4:37 p.m.

So many fuzzies. I has them.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/15/13 9:22 a.m.

You should see a doctor.

Derick Freese
Derick Freese UltraDork
9/4/13 3:29 a.m.

SWMBO just told me to start saving my pennies for one. She wants one as much as I do.

JoeyM
JoeyM Mod Squad
9/4/13 6:22 a.m.

She's a keeper.

4cylndrfury
4cylndrfury MegaDork
9/4/13 8:02 a.m.
Derick Freese wrote: SWMBO just told me to start saving my pennies for one. She wants one as much as I do.

does she have a sister, if so, is she single, if so is she 18+?

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