In reply to mazdeuce:
If you prep it as a rally raid/desert race support truck, let me know the moment you make that decision so I can start prepping a vintage class Scout for the Mexican 1000. We can run as International's 1967 team, and hopefully get backing from... I don't know, perhaps a Classic or Grassroots racing publication.
I am completely serious about this.
bluej
UltraDork
8/18/17 9:57 a.m.
mazdeuce wrote:
The first official Baja 1000 was October 31, 1967. I can't find any evidence (yet) that International ever had a factory presence, but people certainly have raced Scouts over the years.
On the other side of the Atlantic, some crazy French dudes raced from Paris to Dakar starting in 1979. This race was much larger in scope and competing teams and support staff used large off-road trucks to follow the event from the beginning. Though they didn't officially compete that first year, you can't send a group of guys on a point to point course without them wanting to see who gets there first. By the second year there was a class for the heavy trucks.
One of the first things I thought of when I saw the cabover was "what if?". What if something like the Dakar had started in the mid 60's? What if International competed in Scouts at the factory level? What if they needed support trucks? What if those support truck drivers wanted to race, just a bit?
I cannot endorse this line of thought strongly enough!
As much as I love bags and low, i approve of this line of thinking. This is going to be fun.
I love reading a good Deuce thread, and I'm excited to see you get it up and running with the stock stuff (if possible) before you go all crazy with it.
I was also wandering aimlessly through middle America (Wisconsin, precisely) on my honeymoon the same week this thing was getting brought home. I wonder how close we were to crossing paths.
Anyway keep up the good work and the good writing- it really is inspirational, on a 'work with what you have and enjoy it' level which is something I can always use more of. Maybe I'll spend some time in my mini-grosh working on my small truck tonight.
my favorite part of dakaar is the trucks. Cab overs getting 10 Ft of air in the desert. Nothing better. Though, really, a bagged and dragged COE would be sweet too.
That is undeniably majestic.
I wonder how much just the cab weighs, and how it would look on a Hummer H1 chassis?
In reply to ¯_(ツ)_/¯:
Well, I've only had it for a week, and the more I touch it the more broken it seems. Once it's running and driving I'll start to refine the direction the build will take. Right now I just have a vision.
It's a parking lot sale weekend at harbor freight, pack a picnic basket and have lunch in the parking lot?
oldtin
PowerDork
8/18/17 12:11 p.m.
try a good soaking in pb blaster - or acetone and trans fluid mix. At this point you pretty much know it's a full tear-down, and rebuild. I'm all for watching the process, but it may be cheaper and faster to find a running donor. Never realized the dakar truck rear body is a fabric cover. Oh, you can often find unimog or volvo portal axles for sale in the pirate website.
In reply to mazdeuce:
I know, but when that refined direction starts to include sand dunes and knobbly tires please give me a call
In reply to oldtin:
It's going all the way down for sure. It probably makes more sense to find a running (or at least rotating) motor and start with that, but this is sitting in front of me and it has to come out. Might as well learn what I can.
It looks like an International would run in Class M at Baja and one of the Dakar Ivecos ran in the Baja 500 a few years ago. Not that I've done any looking into it or the Mexican 1000w
pres589
PowerDork
8/18/17 1:45 p.m.
Something tells me at least one piston, and probably most or all, will require air tools to remove...
You could try some heat on it, if you have a torch (and after cleaning off the grease so it doesn't go up in flames.) If you have an oil filter wrench you could try that, if it will fit around the distributor body.
Interesting engine - the valley cover looks like a Pontiac, the valve covers look like a Mopar poly 318 engine from the 1950s.
What do I win if I save this engine?
Those do look crusty. But I've rescued worse and I'm a total hack. You can do it.
I'm pretty sure the pistons are supposed to be flat top.
They have a huge weird ass dish. I'll try to get a better picture, but I have no idea what's they're about. I've never seen anything like them.
NOHOME
UltimaDork
8/18/17 8:08 p.m.
mazdeuce wrote:
What do I win if I save this engine?
Me thinks a plotline has been writ!
So much of what makes life interesting is not wise, so I say go for it.