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irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
2/27/19 9:48 p.m.

I literally have no patience. I have a good month to get this all done, so could take a day or two off from e30 stuff, but once I get going, I have to keep going until it's done (and then have a couple weeks to test everything before racing, hopefully).

When I got home today, had a couple packages

First one is an early e36 airbox/filter. Not positive I'm going to use this, but I picked it up for pretty cheap so figured if i can make it fit it'll be a nice clean setup. A quick mockup shows it'll be pretty tight with the M20 expansion tank over there (got me considering going back to an M42 radiator/expansion tank setup, but probably not). Anyhow, more on that later. air box is literally the last thing I'm gonna address.

the other package was my 944 brake booster, from Just Joshin' Porsche 944 parts up in Maryland. He always has the Porsche stuff I want at a good price. It came in pretty good shape (it's the ATE brand one needed to make this easy), just needed some cleaning up. 

Here's a pic of it next to the stock e30 booster. Note the shaft is much longer on the 944 booster, but otherwise it's a direct fit. 

After measuring, I threaded the shaft about 2" farther down and then cut it off

And voila

Install was easy, and my cut was perfect length and everything bolted right up

If you don't know these swaps, the 944 booster is about an inch smaller than the e30 booster and gives the clearance for the M50 intake manifold (which still has to be shaved).

Anyhow, back to the engine. I took it of the stand to put the flywheel on. Just like the M42, the stock M20 single-mass flywheel is not a direct fit. Most people get it milled for clearance. Since I'm both cheap and don't really care, I just did what i did on the M42: ground down the oil pan ribs (and some other stuff on the back of the oil pan) to create the needed clearance. No problemo...

So, the flywheel is on (didn't bolt up the clutch yet since I can't find my centering tool for some reason....)

Then, since I had the hoist already out, and the engine all finished up.....well, you know what I did. 

yup. it's an easy 1-man job with no transmission on it. Plus it allows me to tilt the engine forward on the mounts in order to hook up fuel lines, heater hoses, etc. Which is nice. Looks like we should be able to pretty easily put the G240 on from underneath. 

This was mostly a test-fit, but I don't see any reason it will need to come back out at this point

Some things I figured out:

1. For the power steering hoses, everything will hook up just fine except I need to move the reservoir forward in the engine bay a bit. No problem. 

adam525i
adam525i GRM+ Memberand Reader
2/27/19 9:53 p.m.

Looking forward to the first start video tomorrow night!

Adam

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
2/27/19 10:28 p.m.
adam525i said:

Looking forward to the first start video tomorrow night!

Adam

lol, it's gonna be a while 

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
2/28/19 9:36 p.m.

Just a few minor things today - I spent a couple hours cleaning up the mess in the garage and putting tools away so I can actually find the stuff i need. 

A few little projects after that. First, a bit of bracket alterations. The stuff on the left is the e34 bracket that holds the x20 plugs as well as the power distribution block for the starter wires. Rathre than re-use the lousy e30 c101 holder (which probably won't fit anyhow), I decided to do something different, especially since the e34 harness is a lot longer than the e36 version and I don't want to shorten wires or loop anything.

So, after playing around with some locations, I riveted the altered bracket on the shock tower (riveted, because I'm trying to keep stuff welded to other stuff in the engine bay to a minimum, to avoid difficulties if I want to move it later). Note that the PS reservoir will be relocated as well, to a TBD location.

And the wires fitted....

I also installed the distro block on the firewall HVAC fan cover. Basically this just has one big wire going across the engine bay to the stock e30 distro block lug, and another wire going down to the starter. But it'll be nice to have a jumper lug in an accessible location as well, in case it's needed. 

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/2/19 8:21 p.m.

Got some more work done today, as I continue to look for a driveshaft. This is pretty boring stuff, so I'll forgive you if you don't read it, lol. But posting for posterity nonetheless. 

i spent about half the day rewiring stuff (much of it unrelated to the engine itself), since the haphazard wiring in this car drives me crazy. At the end of last year I was having intermittent issues with the electric fans coming on via the thermostatic switch (which was tested and works fine), so was using the over-ride switch. I think the stock wiring/relays/etc have just gotten too old or something, IDK. Rather than unwrap a billion wires and try to chase the problem, I just wired an entire new electric fan system with new relays, fuses, wires, connectors, etc. Looks much better too. Then I finished running and connecting all my gauge wiring, among other things. 

And all hidden away (ish)

Now messing with intake/filter ideas. I had hoped to use some kind of stock airbox, since it keeps mud/dust/dirt out better than a cone filter - but that may not be easily possible. My M42, e34, and an e36 airbox i picked up are all no-gos since they don't give enough room for coolant hoses (primarily) with the M3 radiator and M20 expansion tank. I could go back to an M42 radiator and probably make it work, but don't really want to do that.

Kind of annying since I thought the e36 airbox would fit and I bought a couple filters for it (plus buying it off ebay). Damn. IDK, may address it again later or do some modifications. For the time being I think I'll just get a cheap ebay cone filter.

To make more room for filter, MAF, throttle body elbow, etc I decided to move the PS reservoir down to an empty area over the engine mount along the frame rail. I think this will work out well. I modified the stock bracket, cut the hoses shorter, and added a weld-nut into the side of the frame. 

That clears up some more space

What else what else...some "custom" hoses to orient the brake booster vac and check fitting correctly. I go out of my way to make sure nothing touches anything else, since that usually doesn't end well. But that means I can't just cram stuff in wherever I want it..

Ran the e34 harness through my new firewall hole. Pretty pleased that I cut correctly and it fits perfectly. Still have to figure out mounting for the DME and relays inside, but that shouldn't be a real issue.

Pulled out my "spare" G240 transmission. I ran this one for years and only swapped it thinking my other one would be smoother downshifting into 2nd. Not the case, and the other one is a bit whiney, so going back to the original one. Adding some tune-up parts (new 323i TOB, new Condor Speed Shop brass pivot bushing, new Condor carrier bushings, etc). The old pivot bushing was literally worn down about 1/4"...

That also reminds me.....while changing out the 318 throttle cable for the e34 one (it fits a bit better with this engine), I noticed to my amazement that my accelerator pedal's main mounts have NO bushings in them at all. SO just the round bar holding the pedal assembly, pivoting in a couple metal holes that are about twice as large. IDK whether they just finally disintegrated of if they've been gone for years, but definitely need to replace those!

Did some other stuff that isn't very interesting to talk about, so a couple more pics and I'm going to chill and have a beer.


 

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/3/19 9:03 p.m.

Today I did a little road trip to pick up an e36 driveshaft. I had planned to just get an e30 M20B25 DS, but having a hard time finding one locally for a decent price. e36 stuff is cheap and available, and works with minor changes.

So off I went into the middle of Maryland to a guy who parts out e36s. A bit of winter driving to get there on some nice country roads

And picked up a e36 318 driveshaft, which is about 3-4" shorter than mine overall and shoudl be a good fit. 

So, the one downside to the e36 DS is that the bolts on the front flange are M12 size, but the e30 transmisison output flange is M10.

So on the way home I swung by my buddy's place to say hi, and asked him if he knew where I could buy some sleeves (he does a lot of machining). He didn't, but offered to make some for me right then. So after some measuring and looking for dies, he got to work. Chris has CNC stuff, but also some big, old machines like this huge lathe.

And there we have perfect-fit bolt collars..

So, that was pretty neat.

Pulled the e36 CSB off the new driveshaft

And grabbed a new e30 CSB that I bought as a spare a while back. Hmm. Problem. The close on is the new one. The one behind it is the one that just came off my car.

So apparently post-1987 e30s have a narrower bolt mounting pattern on the CSB to the chassis. I didn't have any idea, guess I just got lucky when I've replaced them before that I bought the right one. So, I guess I could get the welder out and modify the base, but these things are pretty cheap so willl just go ahead and order a new one. Ugh. 

So yeah, that's today in a nutshell. Happy I got a DS, one of the last things I needed other than exhaust. 

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3/4/19 7:08 a.m.

You know what to do for the exhaust:  

Very cool that Chris whipped up those sleeves for you on the spot.  How big was his CNC mill?  Not that I have anything I need right now, but it's always good to have a friend who likes weird machining projects...

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/4/19 9:12 a.m.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said:

You know what to do for the exhaust:  

Very cool that Chris whipped up those sleeves for you on the spot.  How big was his CNC mill?  Not that I have anything I need right now, but it's always good to have a friend who likes weird machining projects...

He has some pretty serious stuff, but I honestly couldn't tell you "how big" it is per se. I mean, his CNC machine is a couple feet taller than I am, but not sure what that means in terms of capacity. He has some pretty impressive projects he's working on (non-car related). You should go by there some day - you'd apprciate it. The one thing with Chris is he's a perfectionist - so he takes a long time to do things. I measure twice, he measures like 10 times :)

 

 

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/4/19 10:15 p.m.

The thought of doing an over-the roof exhaust has crossed my mind, honestly. I mean, it would be the ideal place for a rally car exhaust, in truth. But, a little too Mad Max for me lol.

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So, some stuff came in today:

1. An e36 intake elbow. Which, upon further consideration and fitting, isn't as good filter placement as the e34 elbow I previously got. I got the e36 one with the hope that I could fit an e36 airbox that I picked up off ebay. But with the m20 expansion tank and larger radiator, that's not gonna work. So now I have a new intake elbow, an airbox, and two new e36 air filters. Whoops. So, the stack of stuff I can't use is getting taller...

2. Amazon provided an AEM cone filter for cheap, so that's what I'm using for now. Fit is really good

So I used some partial bracket leftover from the car's M10 days as the base for a mount that I fabbed up with some Thule fairing brackets and two rubber mounts off the OEM M42 filter box.

Attaches via a bent "tab" through the MAF housing slot

Works pretty well, but the stock bracket was flexing a bit so I quickly tacked on a little support brace for it lol

Then messed around with some templating for an airbox to keep the intake from sucking in as much hot engine/post-radiator air. This goes back to the e34 elbow size, which puts the filter in just the right place to make a square box and not having to do anything funky

put the clutch on. will deal with the transmission later this week

Then, the other thing that came in was an M20 power steering line. People on the web say it fits with minor adjustments. They must mean it fits a STOCK rack with this swap. The z3 rack, of course, has the hoses coming out on the opposite side of the "neck" and there is NO way to make this M20 hi pressure hose fit. So, add that to the stack of wasted parts. 

So after almost buying a fancy braided line, I got back under the car and did a bunch of bending on my original line (which I think was from an e36 in the first place). After much cursing and much visualizing of angles, finally got it to fit decently where it's routed where it wont' touch anything or rub. I used a pipe-bender that I bought for fuel lines to make some bends, but I'm a bit worried about one that I mildly kinked. I think it'll be ok but will keep an eye on it. 

Anyhow, it kind of curves like 5 times and then runs up and over the reservoir and back down to the rack. BMW's hose positions are moronic. Just put them on the same plane so any "flat" hose will work...grr

Also picked up an elbow for the reservoir so i can link it up with the coolant hose from the engine. 

meh...and then messed around with ways to mount the DME. Can't use the stock bracket (long gone) or the way we had it mounted before (wiring won't reach) so I may have to make some "custom" brackets. we'll see.

While I was there I tracked down the tach signal wire and hooked it up to the lead i left loose from the engine harness.

And, with the e34 harness, I was able to bring the main engine relays into the car (electronics inside are much nicer for a dirty rally car!). Then had to find a place to mount them. I modified the e34 relay mount bracket and stuck it up above the dash bar in some empty space. Looks like that should work well and give easy access.

So, that's good for today. I feel like it's the home stretch now. Transmission and shifter stuff *should* be pretty easy, and once that's done it's mostly just fitting the ebay header (which I've heard can be a pain) and fab up an exhaust (which I'm not looking forward to....)

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3/5/19 5:38 a.m.

In reply to irish44j :

The thought of doing an over-the roof exhaust has crossed my mind, honestly. I mean, it would be the ideal place for a rally car exhaust, in truth. But, a little too Mad Max for me lol.
 

I had actually planned to do one on the Merkur, but then realized that I'd need to relocate a ton of stuff in the engine bay, and it would still have a cage tube blocking it.  Front fender exit would actually be easier, but since it's on the passenger side that wouldn't be very nice for time control workers.

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/5/19 6:54 p.m.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said:

In reply to irish44j :

The thought of doing an over-the roof exhaust has crossed my mind, honestly. I mean, it would be the ideal place for a rally car exhaust, in truth. But, a little too Mad Max for me lol.
 

I had actually planned to do one on the Merkur, but then realized that I'd need to relocate a ton of stuff in the engine bay, and it would still have a cage tube blocking it.  Front fender exit would actually be easier, but since it's on the passenger side that wouldn't be very nice for time control workers.

Don't the rules state it has to exit behind the front seats? I know rallycross rules do, and I'd imagine rally does too, else we'd definitely see some cars with no vulnerable exhaust.

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/5/19 9:34 p.m.

Only had about an hour to work on the car today, so figured I'd just bench-press the transmission up there and get it hooked up. Still need to tighten everything up (and figure out how the heck I'm going to get to the backing nut for the 2nd starter nut), but initial thought is that everything fits pretty much perfectly, with good clearance to the chassis/transmission tunnel. So, that's good. As expected, the trans mount crossmember sits about 2 1/2" farther back than before, which means i probably can't put the other chassis brace back on (not sure if it will fit forward of the crossmember. But we'll see.

Everything is just up there fairly loose until we get the upper transmission bolts tightened up

Also got my new fan in today. Though I've had good luck with SPALs, I went with a high-CFM flex-a-lite one this time, mostly to save some money. As noted before, it's pretty tight for a puller fan - my 2000CFM Spal puller definitely would not fit. My 1200CFM Spal slimline will fit, but only leaves about 1" of space from the front of the engine pulleys. That's too close for a rally car that may hit things and bend things.

So 80s.

In any case, it's a perfect fit where i want it, and since it has squared edges on two sides, it means I can mount it really easily - another plus. 

Also while under there I was looking at the clearance between the oil pan and steering rack, and it was pretty much "none." So I added a thick washer to each engine mount, and moved a couple steering rack spacer washers from below to above to move it down just a tiny bit. After that there is more clearance, at least enough to be comfortable. With the Condor mounts, I don't expect the engine to compress them at all. 

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3/6/19 5:48 a.m.
irish44j said:
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ said:

In reply to irish44j :

The thought of doing an over-the roof exhaust has crossed my mind, honestly. I mean, it would be the ideal place for a rally car exhaust, in truth. But, a little too Mad Max for me lol.
 

I had actually planned to do one on the Merkur, but then realized that I'd need to relocate a ton of stuff in the engine bay, and it would still have a cage tube blocking it.  Front fender exit would actually be easier, but since it's on the passenger side that wouldn't be very nice for time control workers.

Don't the rules state it has to exit behind the front seats? I know rallycross rules do, and I'd imagine rally does too, else we'd definitely see some cars with no vulnerable exhaust.

Only in Limited (ARA) or Stock (NASA).  All other classes it just has to have a cat and exit outside the body, so I could run it straight up out of the hood if I wanted to.  I actually emailed NASA to confirm it was OK to run it out of the fender, and was told it has been done before.

bluej
bluej UberDork
3/6/19 6:16 a.m.

Josh, if you're shimming the engine at the mounts, you may need to shim or adjust a bit at the trans mounts as well to keep the driveline angles happy. just something to keep in mind.

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/6/19 10:25 a.m.
bluej said:

Josh, if you're shimming the engine at the mounts, you may need to shim or adjust a bit at the trans mounts as well to keep the driveline angles happy. just something to keep in mind.

yep, that's the intent. Plus it'll give me a couple mm more clearance doing it that way as well.

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/7/19 9:58 p.m.

Got a few things done today. First order of business was to set up/mount the new fan and get the radiator back in. Radiator setup has worked great for years, so just going to replace the rubber lower mounts and upper grommets (which are from a stock airbox). Fan is almost a perfect fit for the space it needs to go in, in front of the radiator. I built a little aluminum mount bracket that seems like a better way than using the through-radiator mount ziptie things. At the bottom I'm using big zip ties until I can weld on a couple mounting tabs.

Then, something I had been somewhat not looking forward to - fitting the headers. These are $60 ebay pieces, and reports from others indicate fitament is iffy and that modifications need to be made. I initially thought the holes for the mount bolts were a bit off, but as it turns out they actually line up fine, so no need to get my rotary tools out. 

After doing a test fit-up with a few bolts tightened down. I was pretty pleased to see that clearance doesn't appear to be an issue anywhere. The pipes themselves pass about 2mm apart at one curve between the two pieces, but that doesn't matter anyhow. More importantly, there's plenty of clearance at the control arm lollipop (in fact, enough room to leave the heat shield on it). And they curve right around the footwell with about 1/2" clearance, nice and tight. 

The output pipes are a bit mis-aligned but I think I can work with them - and more importantly they may almost exactly line up withe the 2-1 collector pipe from the e34, which I kept around for this possibility.

So far I've gotten all but three of the rear bolts tightened up with new studs. Those are going to be a major bitch to get to - I may have to order a flex-head ratcheting 11mm wrench, which I don't have one of. Else will be doing it the old way, with 1/4 turns using a standard box-end. ugh. Hard to take header pics, but here are a few.

artur1808
artur1808 GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/8/19 6:28 a.m.
irish44j said:

Very impressed with how quick you've been moving through this, and I'm looking forward to hearing you've got it fired up!

On another note, is this a Hella 350 lightbar? If so, how do you like it? I've been considering getting their pencil beam and a few ebay/amazon LED pods for floods. 

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/8/19 10:18 a.m.
artur1808 said:
irish44j said:

Very impressed with how quick you've been moving through this, and I'm looking forward to hearing you've got it fired up!

On another note, is this a Hella 350 lightbar? If so, how do you like it? I've been considering getting their pencil beam and a few ebay/amazon LED pods for floods. 

yep, that's a Hella (don't recall the model number). It's pretty good distance and sharpness. We also run a pair of big Hella Rallye 3000 floods (which reallly don't flood very well, but have good distance and look cool) and we did have an 18" ebay double-row bar that really put out great flood lighting if not as much distance. I actually regret selling that one and may get another. Also plan to put a couple little ebay square floods in for cornering (I have two left of the set of 8 I bought for the tow rig flood lighting on the roof rack!)

Lof8
Lof8 GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/8/19 12:58 p.m.

lookin good!

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/8/19 10:53 p.m.

A few things today:

- went out in search of the appropriate wrench locally to be able to access the last three header bolts. The only way I could figure to do this was with a flex-head 11mm ratcheting wrench. Of course, almost no sets sell 11mm ratcheting flex-heads. $20 on Amazon for one, but then I'd have to wait a few days. Went to Home Depot and of course you can buy individually every damn metric size except 11mm (why are exhaust nuts 11mm???). Luckily, 7/16" SAE is only a couple hundreths off 11mm, so got one of those, and managed to get the job done with much working out of my fingers.

- I had ordered new radiator hoses, but for some reason I bought e34 hoses (as part of a larger hose set), which don't work with the M20 radiator, since the e34 radiator has an integrated overflow tank. I messed around trying to bodge something together with them and my old M42 hoses, but no dice. So found a local parts store that had e36 hoses, cashed in some online discounts and SpeedPerks, and now the radiator is all hooked up and should be good to go.

- Then, made a few measurements and cuts on the 2-1 collector pipe that I kept off the e34 on a whim. As luck would have it, it almost exactly lines up with the ebay header outlets! Had to do one tiny adjustment to the pipe, and they matched right up. That's some great luck there, and saves some time/trouble/money. I do have to add an 02 sensor bung since the e34 bung is on the pipe going into the cats, which I'm not going to use.

And sketched out what to order from Jegs to build an exhaust system. Decided not to go with a stock M20 or e36 system, since they're dual-pipe. Instead going with full 2.5" single pipe (which I will "armor" in strategic places). Since rally requires a catalytic converter, and I want the car to be tolerable on the street, will get a cheap cat and a decent muffler. We'll see how this goes. I'm not great at exhaust welding ...

adam525i
adam525i GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/9/19 8:32 a.m.

Those headers and that E34 pipe made that job a lot easier for you. I put together a similar new exhaust for my e28 last year and it took at least twice as long as I thought but most of the time was spent getting from the two header outputs down to one 2.5" pipe lined up under the car which is where you are already at. I think you'll be surprised how quickly the rest goes together from where you have it now, just tack it up on your back and pull it off to finish welding it up.

Looking good,

Adam

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3/9/19 9:55 a.m.

Welding exhaust tubing isn't that bad, just use thin wire and don't get hung up on trying to run a continuous bead.

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/9/19 7:41 p.m.

 Today I got all my extensions out and somehow got to the upper starter bolt, and got that secured. Ran out to Walmart and bought some antifreeze, oil, and ATF (for power steering), and filled everything up. After spending 15 or 20 minutes checking things, it was time:

So yeah, that worked pretty well :)

It sounds so good with the open pipes, I almost don't want to put exhaust on it, haha....

After verifying the engine works, I started with some other button-up details, like making some modifications to my strut bar to clear where I put the x20 (C101) plugs. 

I also added my secondary bolts for the transmission mounts. I had previously extended the transmission mount carrier to strengthen it, but it requires drilling holes through the floor (in an area that has 3-layer overlapping panels, so nice and thick). Anyhow, had to drill new holes since the new ones are now 2 1/2" too far forward.

So, one thing i noticed when I had the car on was the power steering appeared to be doing nothing at all. No noises, no bubbles in the reservoir, nothing. When I got the e34 the PS was pretty noisy like it had air in the system. Now it seems like it's doing nothing at all. Not sure if that's the pump, or the possibility that I kinked one of the rigid PS pressure hose sections. I mean, I did kink it a bit, but I thought it was pretty mild. Hm.

Looking around, the LUK PS pump on this car has a BMW part number on it that only comes up online on a few German-language sites. So that's pretty odd. e34's had several different PS pumps that depended on if the car had adjustable suspension and other stuff. From what I've gathered the e36 PS pump is almost identical other than slightly different hose positions. And also way more available. So, I called Greg (who sold me the driveshaft) and he is sending me a PS pump and pressure line from his stash. Not a big deal, just a bit annoying since PS fluid always/ALWAYS makes a mess.

part number also not on realOEM...odd. 

And, I took my cardboard templates and cut out a filter box of sorts using whatever material I could find. As it happens, had some leftover Lexan sheet, so hey, let's do some minor fabbing. It's gonna get scratched to E36 M3 in no time of course, but until then it looks kind of cool I guess, and lets me see how dirty the filter will be getting, and should protect the filter from most of the dust and heat from the engine bay area (or that's the idea). As you can see, the top piece is just secured by zipties, which is in purpose, to make it more easily removable.

of course I slapped a sticker on it, lol

Knurled.
Knurled. GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/10/19 8:43 p.m.

Don't recal the tach!  Just pretend that you're shifting at exactly 11,000rpm like Bunta said to.

irish44j
irish44j MegaDork
3/10/19 8:46 p.m.
Knurled. said:

Don't recal the tach!  Just pretend that you're shifting at exactly 11,000rpm like Bunta said to.

lol....well, in theory I guess I could set it for 14,000 redline using the 3cyl settings :D

I'm gonna guess that's an Initial D reference? 

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