No Time
UberDork
7/22/24 10:57 a.m.
Delving into the world of MINI with the recent acquisition of a 2009 Cooper S with approx 20k miles. It's a 6 speed with the only options being sport package and xenon headlights. No cruise, radio controls, or other options
The car was my father in-laws baby and after his passing my BIL cared for it for 10 years. It has now moved on to our household and will be used as a pseudo daily during the salt free months in NE.
It needs some TLC, but nothing major, so this will be more of a maintenance and use thread.
No Time
UberDork
7/22/24 11:13 a.m.
There's a few things on my to-do list so far:
- New key fob (non replaceable battery). One sort of works and one doesn't work, so I think it's safest to buy one new (cry once) then try replacing the battery in the one that doesn't work.
- Rear hatch handle needs replacement. The rubber part of the handle deteriorated to the point of failure, and the switch sort of works. (new one in order). Looks like it will be changed from body color to chrome since the latch is all part of an assembly with the license plate lights and trim.
- Headlights need adjustment. It's almost like they were adjusted with the high beam on instead of lows. The xenon's go through their leveling cycle, but are set too low. I can drive with highs on and no one flashes me.
- Phone mount to be able to use gps and see screen. Not high priority, but annoying on drives where I need directions.
Make sure it's had the recall for the timing chain, if it hasn't and they won't do it now due to its age, spend the money. A timing chain failure on these sends the car to the scrapyard.....either as a permanent resident or for a used engine, and I guarantee you won't find one with only 20K on it!
I had a 2009 and had mine done under the recall at 50K, and at 115K it was still working fine. so it's worth doing if you want to keep the car (on the road)
In reply to MiniDave :
I'll check with dealer when I go there for the fob. I know it had the HPFP recall done, but I don't think the timing chain has been replaced. The few videos I watched make it seem like it's possible to DIY, but not fun to do.
Is the timing chain a case of when, not if, it will fail? Do they provide warning?
Are the failures defect related, or a result of extended service intervals specified by the manufacturer?
So first experience with Mini dealer was not great.
I called to see about ordering a new fob and getting it programmed. The first dealer I called was in Warwick, RI. They wanted me to drive an hour there to show them the registration and my license just to order the fob, then go back again to pick it up and have it paired with the car.
The second dealer was a bit more reasonable, and I was able to email a scan of the documents to place the order. Still an hour drive each way to Rockland to get it when it arrives, but better than having to go in person just to order.
I'll bring SWMBO with me to get it and we'll go someplace near the ocean for some seafood and harbor views. Just need to figure out where to go to eat.
No Time said:
In reply to MiniDave :
Is the timing chain a case of when, not if, it will fail? Do they provide warning?
Definitely a case of when, the chain tensioner doesn't provide sufficient tension on the chain, causing the chain to stretch. The stretched chain is then even more under-tensioned, until it damages the chain guides and breaks. There is a rattle at idle from the chain area of the engine that can be heard when the chain is not tensioned properly.
In reply to red_stapler :
Sounds like I need to plan for it, but if the engine's quiet on cold starts then I have time. Once it's starts to make any rattle on a cold start then the timing chain needs to be done asap.
Tonight's project was fixing the latch for the hatch. I ended up going with chrome, even though the original was painted. I didn't see any good way to move the painted cover from the old to the new.
It was easy enough to do with just 4 screws and one electrical connector. It was surprising to see how much dirt was trapped behind it. I saw some spots where there is bare metal under it, so I'll need to touch them up to prevent rust.
Photos showing before and after:
Original:
New:
Oh yeah, there was a minor repair I made the first day with it.
The vents had all lost the ability to hold a position, and within a minute or two would be pointing at the floor. The temp fix when I got it was business cards tucked between the vent and the dash socket.
The more permanent fix was to use the soft side of self adhesive Velcro. I cut small (3/16"x 3/8") pieces of Velcro, rotated the vents all the way up, then stuck the Velcro to the top inside of the dash opening as far back as I could place it. It took a bit of wiggling to rotate the vents back down past the first edge without peeling the Velcro off, but now they all stay where pointed without any sign there was ever a problem.
This evening I did some reading and went through all the paperwork that came with the car.
There was some good news hiding in all the inspection and service receipts:
- oil has been changed annually in September with when the state inspection was performed, so approx 500-800 miles and 12 months.
- brake fluid has been changed a couple times
- new oem pads and rotors installed at approx 15k miles.
- The recall for the auxiliary water pump was completed.(no evidence of HPFP replacement, so this may be the pump my BIL was referring to).
- The recall for the timing chain was performed at approx 15k miles. Based on the paperwork it was done just in time.
I also found the window sticker. The option list was short:
dculberson said:
That is a great color!
It feels like the correct color a mini should be.
Datsun240ZGuy said:
dculberson said:
That is a great color!
It feels like the correct color a mini should be.
That's how my FIL felt when he ordered it.
When I ordered my 2009 Clubman S, I got roof rails, zenons, cold weather package (heated seats, mirrors and washer nozzles) sport seats in std vinyl, metallic paint (Laser blue), automatic gearbox with flappy paddles and roof in body color. Clubby's were quite a bit more money than a standard S and mine stickered out at $29,500 IIRC.
Glad the timing chain was done, the new kit seemed better engineered and I don't know of anyone who ever had a problem after getting the new stuff installed - but prior to the "kit", they tried several different tensioner designs (3 - I think) and even 1 new chain. The kit has all new guides, tensioner, sprockets and chain in it - all good stuff. Good enough that the N18 engines that followed never had a t-chain problem.
I've run into the issue with the key fobs and needing proof of ownership before they would sell you one, but I guess that's not a bad thing......I wouldn't want someone able to get a key to my car just by asking. I don't understand why the battery isn't replaceable, although it is a rechargeable type - it charges when the key is docked in the car.
Next on the to-do list, clutch replacement.
I'll add more information in the future, but for the moment here's some photos:
No Time
UberDork
10/13/24 9:24 p.m.
Started disassembly to install the new clutch today. Everything it disconnected up top, removed the exhaust, and the subframe is sitting on the jack.
Now I need to get the subframe out of the way, so I can unbolt the starter, slave cylinder, and auxiliary water pump. Then drain the transaxle, disconnect the axles, unbolt the transaxle and remove it.
I didn't get as far as I wanted today, but it's definite progress and tomorrow i'll be able to see what the current clutch looks like and start the reassembly process.
No pictures due to the technical difficulties, but I'll post some one I can do it directly from my phone.
No Time
UberDork
10/14/24 6:55 p.m.
Definitely at the end of its useful life, actually a bit beyond based on the rivets
Just because this is painfully fresh in my memory...
If you ever have to replace the thermostat assembly, get a new coolant tube that goes from the thermostat to the back of the water pump. It is plastic, and it will break. It's fairly easy to pop the intake manifold off for access.
No Time
UberDork
10/14/24 9:41 p.m.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
Thanks for the heads up. I'm hoping it will be a while before I have to be this deep into the guts.
Wow, that clutch was complete toast, and only 20K miles on it? Looks like it's been slipped a lot?
I think this will be a great car once you have it all sorted out - I really loved both of mine (2003S JCW and 2009 ClubmanS) and miss them. I never had any real trouble with either of mine, tho there were things about them I didn't like - the sunroofs are great if you want one - I didn't - but my 2003 JCW had it. They let in a ton of heat in the summer.
My clubby was ordered (by me) with the sport seats, the lower bolsters chafed on my thighs on long trips - very uncomfortable. The std seats are much better and still hold you in place just fine. Small details in the grand scheme of things tho!
Bet you can't wait to get it down that first twisty road!
Coming along really well. If you're in need of a nice "parts car" shoot me a PM.
We have a 2004, same color as yours, good condition over all/looks really nice, needs a rear brake line, but could be easily driven with care.
Pretty new clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, and throw out bearing, Supercharger serviced at appropriate mileage point. Current inspection sticker.
Even though some expensive repairs were done its currently needs, rear brake line(s) and maybe an exhaust at some point later on. Located on the Upper Cape, in Sandwich, MA. Like to get $1,500.
We’ve got receipts for all the work, there were a few other things done when the clutch was done.
Just a thought/offer if you need stuff for your build.