JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas Dork
4/13/15 4:25 p.m.

This is Miss Jane. (my wife's a bookworm... Jane Austen... get it?)

She previously belonged to a Fla. GRMer, who had purchased her as a several-year-old "restoration". My wife and I bought her over Labor Day weekend 2012, drove nonstop from Kansas City to Tallahassee, FL in a '90s Ford Ranger with a tow dolly, hooked up the car, drove nonstop home, all in the wake of Hurricane (who-the-hell-remembers). 2200 miles, about 40 hours.

Only trouble we had the whole way was a flat tire on the back of the Mini 10 minutes after we left the seller's house.

My wife still jokes (I think...) that this was the closest we've ever come to not being married anymore...

Shortly thereafter, I traded another GRMer this guy:

for THIS guy:

A 2001 Honda CBR929 engine and wiring harness.

Wife still likes the idea of FWD (boo), so I'll be installing the engine front forward, and using a chain-driven differential to send power to the front wheels.

Pulled the old engine out, and started scheming on how to make a square peg fit in a round hole, when BLAMMO!

I decided it'd be a nifty idea to go play soldier!

Fast forward 18 months. I'm finally back to somewhere I can play with my toys. My automotive ADD has been in overdrive, but Miss Jane is at the top of the list. No more new toys until I've at least made some measurable progress on this one.

Cleaned out the leftovers of the previous engine. Wiring harness (rats had been in it), brake lines, engine mounts, brake and clutch master cylinders all came out.

The front clip is pretty well buggered, so I'll be replacing it anyway... might as well resign myself to a little bit of cutting. And look at that, with a little creative removal:

It all fits under the hood! Doesn't all play well together, though. VERY tight fit front-to-rear, and there's no exhaust manifold installed in that picture. The oil filter was sitting on the front beam of the subframe. More cutting and rearranging, and we get this:

At this point, I went back to the drawing board. I'm a child. I like cut and paste craft-type stuff.

This ^^^^ shows the engine and differential position relative to the firewall and subframe (and front wheels, if you look close). One square = one inch. The oil filter and exhaust manifold are not playing nicely with the front clip, and the cog on the differential will only have 3 inches of ground clearance. After playing around with a paper cutout of the engine, I decided I wanted to move the engine up 3 inches and rearward 4 inches at a bare minimum. As the rear of the engine is already snug against the rear crossmember of the subframe, I'm going to have to restructure the subframe and sacrifice some footroom, but that's the only way I'll get the essentials inside the front valance.

As a side note: usually bike-engined Minis use Yamaha R1 engines. The R1 powerplant is shorter front-to-rear, with a (vertically) taller gearbox profile. This allows for the differential to be mounted almost directly underneath the gearbox, making for a very compact (again, front-to-rear) package. Hindsight is 20/20. I don't have an R1, so Berkeley it.

If I'm going to go hacking at the rear crossmember of the subframe, I might as well just...

The subframe is bolted to the body in 10 places. Two bolts up front, 4 in the floorpan, and two at the top of each shock tower. Undo the shock absorber bolts and the steering ball joints. Lift body off of subframe, roll backwards, set on jackstands. Easy peasy. Sorry, no action shots. I was anxious to get on with it, so I pulled the subframe sans assistance/photographer.

I repurposed a hand-me-down dolly as an engine stand, which allowed me to better control the spatial position of the engine (it had been sitting on spare tires, which don't lend themselves well to precise engine placement). I want the engine as far to the passenger side as possible, so as to put the transmission output cog (and subsequently the differential) as close to the centerline as possible. This will make for as close to equal-length driveshafts as possible.

Not much clearance between the oil filler and the passenger shock tower.

This is still the position shown in the sketch above. The oil filter still wants to live where the front crossmember of the subframe was, and the exhaust manifold would be protruding through the grill and front clip. Going to have to move back a little bit.

More cutting, and some pasting of previously cut bits (the front crossmember).

And throw the engine back on, tacking in a couple of makeshift supports to hold it where I want it.

This gets the exhaust manifold inside the front crossmember and well inside the bodywork. The head is closer to the hood, but there's still several inches of clearance. Wife wants the car to sit an inch or two lower than it did in its engineless gutted state (which was where I took my measurements for the previous sketch). Where she wants it, we'll have 5 inches of ground clearance at the floor pan, and with this engine placement, 4.5 inches at the differential drive cog, so I can live with that. Will need to make a fairly stout guard for the chain and cog, but that's in the cards anyway.

Sacrifices with this setup: going to lose about 6 inches of passenger-side footroom to make room for the tail end of the engine/gearbox, and almost a foot right in the center of the car to accommodate the differential and chain drive, and the steering rack is exactly where the differential wants to be.

Looking at my sketch and old pictures, I think I can put the rack under the engine and ahead of the rear crossmember. I'll have to put a knuckle or two in the steering column, but I had planned on changing the column anyway to improve the steering wheel angle and center it on the driver's seat. This should have the added benefit of further reducing bump steer, as it should make for shallower steering arm angles. Or something.

So, how to mount the new engine. This is my inspiration.

The engine and transaxle in my Beetle are solid mounted (because [daily-driven] racecar), and it's hellish to drive. Pretty sure that was the demise of my first transmission, and the second one isn't looking to healthy. So I want a little bit of cushion in Jane's motor mounts.

Enter the universal shock absorber bushing, and some hardware-store ingenuity.

Cut the threads off a 3/8" x 4" SCH40 pipe nipple (is nipple a filter word?), cut the remaining pipe in half, insert into shock absorber bushing. Cut the threads off a 1" x 5" SCH40 pipe nipple, cut the remaining pipe in half, ream/taper the inside of the sections, and press in the shock bushing. 12mm hardware finishes the ensemble.

Since the driver's side engine mounting point is in use, I started with the passenger side mounts. Cut some brackets out of 1/8" x 2" strap, welded them to the subframe.

The bolt/bushing pair in the top center of this ^^^^ picture will be the top/engine side of the engine mount. Bushing is a 12mm drill bushing from McMaster. I've got a length of 1/2" .120-wall DOM tubing to run between the subframe-side bushings and the engine-side bushing.

More of the same on the driver's side. Just have one lower mount point done at the moment, going to put another at the top of the shock tower like on the passenger side.

Aaaand that's where she sits. You're all caught up.

I need to go actually ream out the 1" sleeves for the shock bushings so I can press the bushings in, so I can tack weld the tubing between the lower bushings and the engine-side bushings. Once that's done, pull the tacked assembly, press the shock bushings out, weld the tubing on the rest of the way, paint them, repress the shock bushings in, install, repeat entire process for driver's side. I have no air tools, so I'm going to have to go find someplace to borrow a die grinder. Soon.

In the meantime, I'm trying to get the engine to fire. I've got the harness all hooked up, and it'll crank, but (after days of frustration and cursing) I discovered that the reason I can't get spark or fuel pump operation is that Honda had an anti-theft mechanism wired into the ignition switch. There's a diode that reduces the voltage into the ECU from 12V to 9V. If the ECU senses more or less than the prescribed voltage, it won't work. So now I'm waiting on the $0.73 voltage regulator to reduce the voltage from 12 to 9. Fingers crossed.

This'll probably be slow going. I don't have 6 kids like Tuna, but I will soon have 20-odd enlisted soldiers to oversee. I'll update when I can. Hope to be test driving by the end of autocross season, then pull it all apart again over the winter for finishing and paint.

Yeah, I know. Fat chance.

singleslammer
singleslammer UltraDork
4/13/15 4:57 p.m.

That is awesome! Glad to see that engine being put to good use.

wheelsmithy
wheelsmithy GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
4/13/15 4:59 p.m.

Very nice! Thanks for sharing.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/13/15 5:29 p.m.

Very Cool!

JacktheRiffer
JacktheRiffer Reader
4/13/15 6:06 p.m.

Nice build! Should be a super fun ride.

JoeTR6
JoeTR6 Reader
4/13/15 9:08 p.m.

Sweet. I'll be watching this one.

ssswitch
ssswitch Reader
4/13/15 9:39 p.m.

Awesome build. Your floor even matches the car! It was meant to be.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
4/13/15 10:13 p.m.

That's a great name. My bookworm wife approves.

That's a great car. I approve.

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas Dork
4/17/15 10:51 a.m.

Any bets on fuel economy? The interwebs say bike got about 30mpg when driven like a fiend.

I'm trying to decide if I ought to rehab the stock fuel tank or invest in a larger fuel cell. Stock is 5.5 gallons.

Got the voltage regulators I was waiting on. Spent an hour or so looking for my soldering iron, 15 minutes splicing the regulator in. Works like a charm. Fuel pump primes now, and (I haven't checked yet) it SHOULD have spark now as well.

I'm about this close to throwing the tank-ends of my fuel lines in a 5 gallon can and seeing if she'll start.

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas Dork
5/4/15 9:01 p.m.

Wow, long break. Life happens. Working on my marriage, among other things.

Took the wife autocrossing in the Beetle a couple weekends ago, and she really enjoyed it. Unfortunately (or fortunately?), she got to poking around on the car a bit and discovered some of the scary bits I've been turning a blind eye to until they get really bad. So she mandated some work be done on the Bug. Tore it completely apart in the driveway on Friday afternoon (think, everything in front of the front seats is disassembled), thinking "I'll have plenty of time to get it done this weekend".

Wrong.

Had to go fetch her horse from two hours away on Saturday. "No worries", says I, "it'll be a half-day errand at most".

Wrong again.

Spent all day Saturday trying to get the horse to step onto the trailer. Would NOT. No sir. Stayed overnight with my parents, back at it early Sunday morning. Finally got him to load mid-afternoon, so by the time we got to the new barn and all settled in, Sunday was a write-off.

Was planning on continuing with the Beetle today (its my daily, so it kinda has priority over all my other projects), but it has been raining steadily since noon, and I didn't feel like lying under the car in the rain with fading light.

So I did some work on Miss Jane instead, since she's indoors.

Finished up the passenger side engine mount. Fits nicely, seems sturdy enough. The next step is to cut off the makeshift mount on the driver side and get that side built. May do that tomorrow if the weather carries on like this.

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas Dork
8/19/15 7:17 p.m.

Jesus. "May do that tomorrow" turned into "May do that in three and a half months".

Buried with work, as predicted. Dealing with marriage issues. Taking a cross country road trip, and focusing most of my efforts on the car we took it in.

And now the civilian contractor that runs our on-post housing is kicking us out so they can refurbish our house. We're moving about a mile across post to a brand new, larger house (with a smaller garage, Berkeley) in early September.

So Jane needs to be back together.

Welded up the driver's side engine mount. Finally.

And, with a great deal of sweating, cursing, and manhandling of the engine/subframe assembly, I got her back on all fours.

There's a great big hole where the firewall used to be now.

But the hood fits over the engine, and the grill fits over the front of the exhaust, and there's still plenty of ground clearance.

Need to work out some kind of rear engine mount, probably utilizing the hole directly under where the motorcycle swingarm would have mounted. Would have liked to get that taken care of before I got the whole mess put back into the car, but scheduling dictated.

Dusterbd13
Dusterbd13 UltraDork
8/19/15 7:45 p.m.

Cool project.

And working on the marriage is much more important than anything else. Ever. Glad to see that being a priority.

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
8/19/15 7:48 p.m.

Cool project.

Lomaxmotorsports
Lomaxmotorsports New Reader
8/20/15 3:03 p.m.

Nice start! I will be watching this one!

NOHOME
NOHOME UberDork
8/20/15 4:09 p.m.

There is also a meat grinder about where your right foot wants to be. Whats the plan to get the sprocket to the driven wheels?

JohnInKansas
JohnInKansas Dork
8/20/15 5:31 p.m.

Plan is a Honda LSD with a custom oil case, a drive gear for the chain bolted to the drive flange of the diff(final drive ratio TBD), and a ring gear with starter motor for reverse. Then a pair of custom driveshafts from the diff to the hubs.

It bugs the E36 M3 out of me that the steering wheel isn't centered on the seat and the pedals, so I'm going to reconfigure that whole setup before I'm done. Should minimize meatgrinding. Hopefully.

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