ojannen
ojannen GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
2/28/23 9:55 p.m.

I purchased Harold Knobel's old D Modified autocross in 2021.  It is pretty sweet.  Since purchasing it, I had a second kid, my wife decided to get back into racing, and central Florida lost most of its autocross sites.  We are back in something with 2 seats and this car has been sitting.  It is time for it to go to someone who has time use it.

The car is in Sanford, FL on the north east end of the Orlando metro area.
Asking price: $5000.  We can work something out if you don't want all 6 wheels.
I am not great at checking my GRM messages.  If I don't respond, please send me an email at <my grm username>@gmail.com

The rough specs are:

  • 1969 Fiat 600 with a mid mounted 2 liter honda engine
  • The engine is a CRV block with an Integra head.  It has high compression pistons and is tuned for E85.  Engine management is Hondata.
  • The rear is a DeDion axle and the front has long dual wishbones.  Running gear is a mix of vw, mini, and triumph parts.  So far, replacement parts have been pretty easy to find as long as I can figure out what they are.
  • I have done a fairly significant brake overhaul including replacing the master cylinder, right rear caliper, and adding flexible brake lines.  I also replaced a good chunk of the rubber and ball joints in the front suspension.
  • The one piece of potential bad news is I haven't run the car in a few months.  I live in an E85 desert and my usual spots were out of E85 on my last few trips to Daytona and to downtown Orlando.  I was hoping to confirm everything still works before putting the ad up but I am not sure where to get fuel right now.
  • The car competed at the minimum weight for the class when it was built.  Today, the minimum is 1400lbs with driver and I am guessing it will need some ballast for a driver under 200 lbs.
  • The car comes with 6 wheels.  The four 13x10 wide wheels have extremely old Hoosier R25B tires.  I bought two more 11" wide wheels for the rear of the car (see pics). 
  • On some of the pictures, the car is on narrow wheels.  Those tires are a little taller than the Hoosier slicks and it makes it easier to get the car on and off my trailer.  They do not come with the car.  I removed the front fenders to fit these larger tires
  • I have a wide Kirkey aluminum seat mounted in the car with sliders.  The car also comes with a narrower seat.  Take both or just one depending on your preferences.
  • The car has a Florida title but was last registered in 1989

Here are some pictures: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ciUyQ6DVMio6nZw57

And what my mom thought of it when I brought it home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZP_sdX_4dg

chandler
chandler UltimaDork
2/28/23 10:10 p.m.

Very cool, good luck with sale!

AxeHealey
AxeHealey GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/1/23 9:18 a.m.

Unbelievably cool!

Wattage
Wattage New Reader
3/6/23 10:57 p.m.

wow!!!

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE SuperDork
3/7/23 10:02 a.m.

That thing is so cool.

Docwemple
Docwemple Reader
3/7/23 10:31 a.m.

A very messed up part of me wants to make that a DD

spitfirebill
spitfirebill MegaDork
3/7/23 10:59 a.m.
Docwemple said:

A very messed up part of me wants to make that a DD

Who isn't thinking of a fly and drive??

ojannen
ojannen GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
3/7/23 12:07 p.m.

In reply to spitfirebill :

I support all fly and drive attempts.

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE SuperDork
3/7/23 12:58 p.m.
Docwemple said:

A very messed up part of me wants to make that a DD

That's not messed up, that's being an American.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe PowerDork
3/7/23 1:04 p.m.

Do I see a license plate in one of those photos?  

ojannen
ojannen GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
3/7/23 2:01 p.m.

The license plate reads Gramp's velociraptor from geriatric park.

The car was last titled in 1989 in Florida.  Florida is a free country so making it street legal might not even require an inspection.

ojannen
ojannen GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
5/3/23 10:58 a.m.

Pre challenge bump.  I had some interest in the car but nothing panned out.

I live in Orlando and could drop the car off at the challenge or the post-challenge track day if anyone was interested.

hobiercr
hobiercr GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
5/3/23 11:14 a.m.

I, for one, would love to see this run at the Challenge. Such a cool car!

Docwemple
Docwemple HalfDork
5/3/23 9:47 p.m.

Love this. Wish my S2 would sell

ojannen
ojannen GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/24/23 3:21 p.m.

This is still on the market and I would like to get one of my garage spots back.  The official asking price is now, the FMV of each of the 6 wheels is $250 and if you brought your own set of 4x100s with 22.5" tires, I might let this go for challenge money.

hobiercr
hobiercr GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
10/25/23 2:37 p.m.

Just for reference, what is the bolt pattern?

hobiercr
hobiercr GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
10/25/23 3:46 p.m.

Also, I went down a rabbit hole (thanks Stampie) about the title.

Madison Carriage Company (title holder) went OOB in 1976

sunbiz.org link

Here is an ad from the ole Madison Enterprise-Recorder. I'll take the '68 Brono, please.

 

ojannen
ojannen GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/25/23 3:56 p.m.

4x100.  It has 13" Civic wheels on it right now.  I would sell them with the car but I want the tires.

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
10/25/23 4:09 p.m.

Crap. You're killing me!

My partner's goal in a fun car would be "cute".  Mine would be a manual trans autocrosser DD that could make it to the Challenge.

 

I would sure take a lot to make it "cute", but I am SO tempted!!

SV reX
SV reX MegaDork
10/25/23 4:09 p.m.

Did you get it running, or are you still missing fuel?

 

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/25/23 4:34 p.m.

Guys someone buy this so I don't attempt to make it the 2024 PLB..

ojannen
ojannen GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/26/23 1:16 p.m.

Speaking of cute, I believe this was the original iteration.  I am guessing 7-8" wide front wheels and different suspension geometry.

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/28/23 3:55 p.m.
nocones said:

Guys someone buy this so I don't attempt to make it the 2024 PLB..

What if I were to tell you I'm in position to make both statements true? 

sleepyhead the buffalo
sleepyhead the buffalo GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/28/23 5:00 p.m.

I really need an extra garage

this would probably make an interesting companion to nocones' LMP360 is GridLife's Super Unlimited class, and SCCA's TT US category? 

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