stroker
stroker PowerDork
2/9/24 2:30 p.m.

NMNA

If that's salvageable that could be a ridiculous track day car...  ChatGPT says this should be a March, fwiw...

Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter)
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
2/9/24 2:42 p.m.

I think that might be newer than 1986? Looks more like an early 90s car to me. Also, this might be my fading memory, but it seems like in those years Danny Sullivan drove the Miller car, and he was driving for Penske, not Patrick.

Edit: Found an article. It looks like the Alfa Indycars were made between 1989 and 1991, and were run by Patrick Racing. If this is the real #40, it may have been run by Al Unser Sr. at Indy in 1990. That's some actual provenance.

KyAllroad
KyAllroad MegaDork
2/9/24 2:46 p.m.

I suspect the seller is awash with requests already and realizing he underpriced it.  Look for it to be relisted for 5K in a week or two.  

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/9/24 2:54 p.m.

I tried to get in 20 minutes after it was posted.  I am on read for like 3 hours now.  

PGibby
PGibby New Reader
2/9/24 4:06 p.m.

Yep, definitely not from 1986. That is a Lola T91/00, which Patrick Racing ran with Alfa engines in 1991. Everything I can see looks "correct". That would have been Roberto Guerrero's car (#40).

 

Link to pictures of another example:

https://360carmuseum.com/en/museum/31/exhibit/1562

Datsun240ZGuy
Datsun240ZGuy MegaDork
2/9/24 5:44 p.m.

I would buy it, clean it up, armor all those tires and face it outward in my garage and sit it in and drink coffee AND play Ted Nugent loudly and talk about how "someday" I'm going to get it running.  

Don't ask why, it just feels right. 

californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia UberDork
2/9/24 5:58 p.m.

Cool find ,

  I wonder how many of his buddies were told thru the years , 

" it's not for sale , never! "

I hope someone here gets it , 

 

 

jimbob_racing
jimbob_racing SuperDork
2/9/24 8:29 p.m.

Thats the kinda car that I would buy just to have as garage art.

skippyman
skippyman New Reader
2/9/24 9:43 p.m.

And... it's sold 

AxeHealey
AxeHealey GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/9/24 9:45 p.m.

He never responded to me and it's listed sold. I sort of assumed it wasn't legit.

Patrick
Patrick GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/10/24 8:39 a.m.

Man I would have bought that immediately but it appears so would everyone else

Grecobeemer
Grecobeemer New Reader
2/10/24 1:00 p.m.
jimbob_racing said:

Thats the kinda car that I would buy just to have as garage art.

I was about to say the same thing

stroker
stroker PowerDork
2/12/24 8:11 a.m.

I tried a different forum and found some interesting responses...

They're claiming it's a '91 Lola with 1990 paintwork...?

PGibby
PGibby New Reader
2/12/24 6:02 p.m.

In reply to stroker :

When I went digging, I found a race in 1991 where they had the lighter paintwork. 

 

Edit: Actually, the 40 only ran one race (Indy 500) that year, and it was the darker paintwork. So yea, this appears to be an older paint scheme on a '91 car. Had to have been a show car or something.

AxeHealey
AxeHealey GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/23/24 11:19 a.m.
californiamilleghia
californiamilleghia UberDork
2/23/24 11:29 a.m.

Good to see some pictures of it and know it does not have a real chassis etc , 

 

iansane
iansane GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/23/24 12:11 p.m.

I want to hang that on my wall.

PGibby
PGibby New Reader
2/28/24 7:13 a.m.

In reply to californiamilleghia :

Yea it looks like real chassis parts combined with whatever to hold those parts together haha

Patrick
Patrick GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/28/24 6:21 p.m.

In reply to AxeHealey :

and good pictures got the flipper 4 grand for doing basically nothing.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/28/24 6:27 p.m.

In reply to Patrick :

That's how flipping works. Buy something at under market value and then sell it at market value. We all think it's okay if WE do it, but it's not cool if someone else does it.

Flynlow
Flynlow Dork
2/28/24 9:42 p.m.

In reply to Keith Tanner :

I just buy stuff and never sell it.  I think I'm doing it wrong :P. 

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
2/28/24 9:46 p.m.

In reply to Flynlow :

You and me both :)

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