2009 Porsche Cayman, Chronos package actual value? (listed at $2400) NMNA Central Illinois.

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Was listed at $28500, then $25000 and now $24000, I have no idea what Porsches cost.

What is the realistic value of a 2009 Cayman with 109K a PDK transmission and the Chronos package?

Cheers,

Eric

I don't know the current values, but the Sport Chrono package is very desirable, especially if the car has 19 inch wheels. It firms up the shocks with the touch of a button, even mid corner. It also makes the 19 inch wheels tolerable on the street. The ride on 19s is rough with the base suspension. Without Sport Chrono, you will be happier on 18s. Plus...stopwatch!

It seems a tad cheap as it's also a PDK car, but the miles might scare people off a bit. 

I would buy it for the price in the title!

I think most of us would...

I think a lot of P car guys will find the pdk and chrono contrary. It needs a manual. Auto guys are, sorry to say, not usually hard core P car guys. OTOH, not a bad price. Knock it down to 20k and manual swap

My 997.2 has PDK and Sport Chrono .

A friend of mine who's a prototypical car guy just sold a manual Cayman S for a PDK one because the latter is better on the track. 

If you go to a Cars & Coffee and your Porsche doesn't have the dashboard chronograph, they'll make you park with the VWs.

That seems like all the money and then some for a non-S 987 with high mileage and paint and interior issues. 

In reply to Tom Suddard :

I prefer high mileage m96/97 cars . If they aren't driven often and hard, they're a ticking time bomb.

Tom Suddard said:

That seems like all the money and then some for a non-S 987 with high mileage and paint and interior issues. 

And Sport Chrono is nice (basically necessary with a PDK) but it's about the only meaningful option on the car, and it's the worst color these were made in.

Side note... there's a lot of bad information in this thread. Sport Chrono alone does absolutely nothing to the suspension, and as a 2009 this is a 987.2 which is not an m97 car.

Docwemple said:

In reply to Tom Suddard :

I prefer high mileage m96/97 cars . If they aren't driven often and hard, they're a ticking time bomb.

This would be a 9A1 car (confirmed by PDK) so far fewer issues than the M96/97 cars.

Being a 987.2 with all the improvements there is some value here but you can still find 987.2 6-speeds in this price range if you are patient and move fast.

It's a 987.2 with the 9A1 and PDK, which are plusses.

Everything else is a minus. Base model (you'll get outrun by a 986 S), grey on grey, BASE interior (lots of vinyl and plastic, which in the 987 feels especially cheap) and no other options. It's missing PASM so it doesn't have the trick shocks.

In reply to pointofdeparture :

I wouldn't say far fewer, just the 1 people overreact to, the IMS. More than any other engine series I've seen, these really need regular use, and sporting use, combined with high quality oil. Great excuse to actually drive your car instead of treating is like a piece of sculpture. 

dps214 said:
Sport Chrono alone does absolutely nothing to the suspension, and as a 2009 this is a 987.2 which is not an m97 car.

Sportchrono gives you the actually good traction control mapping though.

DasAuto said:

Base model (you'll get outrun by a 986 S)

 ??? The 987.2 base 9A1 makes 265HP, 986.1 S makes 252HP and 986.2 S makes 260HP...especially with the PDK, a 987.2 is likely to surprise a 986 S of either flavor.

Docwemple said:

In reply to pointofdeparture :

I wouldn't say far fewer, just the 1 people overreact to, the IMS. More than any other engine series I've seen, these really need regular use, and sporting use, combined with high quality oil. Great excuse to actually drive your car instead of treating is like a piece of sculpture. 

It is so much more than that...closed deck, no more cylinder inserts, redesigned AOS and water pump, substantially improved oiling system, additional main bearing...

I've been shopping for a 987 for months, the 9A1s have proven to be nearly bulletproof on track while the M96/M97 needs a lot of mods and they still have a tendency to go boom with little warning...lots and lots and lots of confirmation of this among the Cayman track guys...I'm only considering 987.2s with the 9A1 for that reason.

pointofdeparture said:

DasAuto said:

Base model (you'll get outrun by a 986 S)

 ??? The 987.2 base 9A1 makes 265HP, 986.1 S makes 252HP and 986.2 S makes 260HP...especially with the PDK, a 987.2 is likely to surprise a 986 S of either flavor.

Docwemple said:

In reply to pointofdeparture :

I wouldn't say far fewer, just the 1 people overreact to, the IMS. More than any other engine series I've seen, these really need regular use, and sporting use, combined with high quality oil. Great excuse to actually drive your car instead of treating is like a piece of sculpture. 

It is so much more than that...closed deck, no more cylinder inserts, redesigned AOS and water pump, substantially improved oiling system, additional main bearing...

I've been shopping for a 987 for months, the 9A1s have proven to be nearly bulletproof on track while the M96/M97 needs a lot of mods and they still have a tendency to go boom with little warning...lots and lots and lots of confirmation of this among the Cayman track guys...I'm only considering 987.2s with the 9A1 for that reason.

I get a little fuzzy on the differences between the base and S engines. The bigger displacement S engine got direct injection, I think the base engine stayed port injection until the 981 version though? Pretty sure all of them got the improved oiling system with an appropriate quantity of scavenge pumps. Despite the owners constantly singing their praise, pretty much every 987.1 I know of that's been autocrossed or tracked heavily has blown up at some point or another; I'm pretty sure I have yet to hear about a major failure from a 987.2 or 981. The M97s are *fine* and can be made to be reliable with some effort, but the 9A1s are just good out of the box as long as you don't run them out of oil.

Any rust issues with these cars? It has probably seen winter in Illinois. 

Not really. If you ever need to take the exhaust off the hardware might fight you a bit, that's about it. Porsche is good at corrosion resistance.

I have a buddy in Colorado getting ready to list a 987.2 6-speed. He is only selling it because he finally pulled the trigger on a Lotus Exige which he's been lusting after forever. Let me know if you want to get in touch with him. 

In reply to dyintorace :

I'd potentially be interested if it falls more into the "well maintained driver" category than the "garage queen" one.