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Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/5/14 11:35 a.m.

I'm not selling this myself, it's a coworker's. I've had a chance to drive it, though - if you want a very light car for 25% of a Caterham's price, it's a great way to go. Quick! For reference, that lap time (on old RA1s) is equivalent to a V8 Atom on Hoosiers. I can probably answer questions on it.


I’ve been putting this off long enough… It’s finally time to sell my Se7en - a homebuilt Locost. I’m the second owner, it was built by the first owner. He got it into Car and Driver with Keith Tanner’s Se7en, you can check out the article here. It’s seen quite a few modifications and upgrades since I’ve had it, though - check out the list below. It’s an absolute riot to drive (obligatory video here), and it’s pretty fast on a tight track - (I believe) it currently has the car record at my local track, Grand Junction Motor Speedway, with a 1:00.4. For reference, Keith Tanner’s 400ish whp V8 Targa Miata has a best of somewhere around 1:01 and his Se7en is somewhere around 1:02. Granted, that’s not on a wide open track, but you get the idea. That having been said, here’s a breakdown:

975ish lbs wet.
2003 Yamaha R1 engine and sequential transmission. Stock, but with heavier springs in the clutch and a Dynojet Power Commander.
Paddle shifter, no-clutch upshifts.
Clutch-pack limited slip diff. The housing is from a Merkur XR4Ti, but I replaced the diff itself.
Westfield fiberglass racing seats - surprisingly comfortable, assuming you’re relatively skinny.
Five-point Crow harnesses.
Custom (sufficiently tall) roll bar.
Custom 3 gallon fuel tank, with baffling - you can run it low with no starvation, probably down to a ½ gallon or so.
1.6 Miata brakes, unknown pads, but they’ve always worked very well (they don’t have to slow down much weight..).
Right hand drive.
Street legal and titled in Colorado. I’ve let the registration expire, as I only drove it on the street to get to the track, but it should be a non-issue to get it re-registered in Colorado. For other states, you’ll have to do your research. It doesn’t have wipers or a real windshield, but it does have headlights, brake lights, turn signals, horn, etc.
Civic radiator - it’ll get warm if you let it idle long enough (although it does have a fan), but I’ve had zero overheating issues.
Nitto NT01 tires (one is corded, the others have decent life left) on 1.6 Miata hollow-spoke wheels.
Shift-I rev light.
Wilwood brake proportioning valve, located for on-the-fly adjustment.
Very light but pretty loud exhaust.

The bad? Not much. The only actual problem is that it’s pretty bad about cold-starting - I think there’s a voltage draw somewhere, you typically have to hook it up to a running car to get it to cold start - but it starts perfectly every time when it’s even a little warm (engine temp, not ambient). In the interest of full disclosure, there are a few other not-perfect things: The header isn’t the prettiest thing in the world (it was meant for a CBR900RR and has been modified). One of the tires is corded, as mentioned previously. The battery’s dead and will need to be replaced. It’s pretty twitchy, which is fantastic under 80 and is a little unsettling over. Between gearing, aerodynamics, and horsepower, this isn’t really a high-speed car anyway. It rides and handles really well, but it also has a decent amount of body roll - sways were on my list of upgrades, but never happened. There was a little bit of fiberglass damage but most of it has been repaired with more fiberglass and some Bondo (not much). I didn’t do a perfect job, but it’s only obvious if you’re looking for it (see the pictures). Buy this if you’re looking for a fast car, don’t buy it if you’re looking for a show car.

I’m asking for $10,000, and that’s firm. I considered asking for more so that we can wheel and deal our way to $10,000, but figured I’d save everyone the trouble. I really don’t want to sell it, as it’s an absolute riot on track, but I don’t drive it often enough to justify having it. If you’d like more pictures or have questions feel free to get in touch with me - brandon@flyinmiata.com. 77O.378.3O48 if you’d rather talk.

I also have a relatively rough but perfectly adequate trailer that works perfectly for this car. It’s a pretty small / light car trailer, for better or worse - it’ll handle a Miata, but that’s pushing it. $500 for the trailer. If I sell the car without the trailer, I'll sell it separately. I'd rather not sell the trailer prior to selling the car, though.

Brandon Fitch brandon@flyinmiata.com 77O.378.3O48
















And the ugly stuff...









bravenrace
bravenrace UltimaDork
3/5/14 11:44 a.m.

Damn.

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand Dork
3/5/14 11:48 a.m.

That's a great deal there.

Hasbro
Hasbro Dork
3/5/14 11:59 a.m.

!@#$%%^^^&&**^#

EvanB
EvanB GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/5/14 12:10 p.m.

I want that trailer but CO is a long drive.

edizzle89
edizzle89 New Reader
3/6/14 5:02 a.m.

i really like the paddle shift linkage, creative

petegossett
petegossett GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/6/14 5:34 a.m.

I'm presuming there's no reverse?

JThw8
JThw8 PowerDork
3/6/14 6:57 a.m.

I see a license plate. Is Colorado just really lenient or does this have a assigned VIN and title? That would be very tempting to me as a street toy.

edit Doh, that's what I get for skimming, I found the part in the ad where it says its titled.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/6/14 9:11 a.m.

Pete, you are correct. No reverse. It's not hard to push a 975 lb car backwards, though. I kept telling Brandon I was going to design an autocross course where he had to do a three-point turn, he never did think it was funny.

The paddle shifter is really nice and feels very solid. Because it's hinged in the middle, an upshift can either be a push on one side or a pull on the other. It's pretty wild hearing it blast down the straight at 12,000 rpm banging off those rapid shifts.

This thing has been registered in two states by now. It wasn't any trouble getting it legal in Colorado.

ae86andkp61
ae86andkp61 GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/6/14 10:45 p.m.

So tempting! Hmmm...how tired would one be after driving this thing about one thousand miles home?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/6/14 11:18 p.m.

With a three gallon gas tank, you'd have lots of opportunities to stop and stretch your legs!

SnowMongoose
SnowMongoose HalfDork
3/6/14 11:38 p.m.

The ultimate fly and drive.
/fapfapfap

ae86andkp61
ae86andkp61 GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/7/14 1:01 a.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: With a three gallon gas tank, you'd have lots of opportunities to stop and stretch your legs!

Three gallon tank? Hmmm...the leg stretch at each refill would nicely balance out the neck stretch while burning each tank! Now, where did Iast leave my goggles?

johnp2
johnp2 Reader
4/25/14 11:04 p.m.

Is this sold?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/26/14 7:24 a.m.

The car is still available, although the trailer is gone.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/24/14 2:59 p.m.

Brandon needs this car to go away. So he's finally put it up on eBay. A week from now, you'll be too late.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171554861147?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/24/14 3:49 p.m.

that would make a heck of a fun daily

yamaha
yamaha UltimaDork
11/24/14 4:22 p.m.

Did he use OEM rear shocks from bikes for his front suspension? They look awfully familiar.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/24/14 4:28 p.m.

The rear shocks are bike shocks, the fronts are not.

From when the car first got running, here's the Car and Driver article. It's undergone a lot of development since including an engine swap.
http://www.caranddriver.com/features/the-homemades-feature-chris-fiaccones-locost-sports-car-page-4

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
11/25/14 9:52 a.m.

Ah... having silly day-dreams of driving this home to SEPA from CO in the middle of the winter...

tuna55
tuna55 UltimaDork
11/25/14 10:01 a.m.

In reply to Ian F:

Do it. If I had the cash I'd do it. It would be the best way to buy something like this.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/25/14 10:14 a.m.

I can supply a set of snow tires that would fit. Same ones I used when I ran my car on the snow-covered track last winter. If you drive it home in the winter, I'll give them to you out of sheer admiration.

Xceler8x
Xceler8x GRM+ Memberand UberDork
11/25/14 12:05 p.m.

Keith, where can I read about FM tracking cars on a snow covered track? Were Miata's still The Answer that day?

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
11/25/14 12:32 p.m.

I really wish I could. I've wanted a LoCost for years. Even bought Keith's book. Sadly, just not in the cards right now.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/25/14 1:06 p.m.
Xceler8x wrote: Keith, where can I read about FM tracking cars on a snow covered track? Were Miata's still The Answer that day?

That wasn't FM, that was a track group that I run. We didn't bother with timing, but I think a stock 1.6 Miata on good snow tires was the fastest. Personally, I spent my time silly sideways.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZccEHN8QelI

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