My brother has a 2012 Boss Mustang. Hopefully it'll be a keeper.
My brother has a 2012 Boss Mustang. Hopefully it'll be a keeper.
I'm thinking 09-11 RX8s will be a little bit due to lower numbers and the R3 package, then again that's just me hoping lol.
Unmolested MS3's, SRT-4s (neon and caliber,) cobalt SS's, R32 vw's are all contenders as well.
I think the Saturn Sky Redline and Solstice GTP are likely candidates for appreciation in the same way the Buick GS was late to the GTO's party but now is a very sought after prize. They won't lead a charge but they will be worth keeping.
The Viper is the 427 Cobra of the nineties.
I agree with Tim on the Viper
For 25K I would be looking for a 93+ Toyota Supra TT with a stick. 25K is about entry with good ones going north of 40K. If I were to bet on any 90's car appreciating in value that would be it.
Boss Mustang and Viper are great candidates.
The Vipers are really cheap right now. I wonder what the Boss 302 will do over the next couple of years. They are still really high, but with the S550 out now they may start to drop. I hear the base S550 GT is faster around the track than a BOSS 302.
Not a Lincoln Mark VII, apparently. It's been for sale for over two months and not one call or email.
You need the combination of rarity, performance, and desirability all together to make a real "investment". Nearly any good car will retain value if taken care of, but only certain ones will really appreciate. Think 3000GT vrs FD RX-7.
So, 2000-2015 that have a shot?
David S. Wallens wrote: C5 Z06?
They're already starting to get collectible. Quality Z28/SS cars are getting pricey too.
G8 GXP manual is a unicorn, GXP's are hard enough.
The new Chevy SS will go up after a while, but buy-in is steep. You could order a 6-speed now and put it away.
2000-2002 WS6 Trans Am's are creeping up for clean ones. Skip the yellow 2002 collectors pk, it's so ugly is worth less than the regular ones.
Numbers matching RX8. I think you would have a better chance of finding a leprechaun.
FD RX7s are already nuts. I expect that to continue.of course that is so last century.
Of this century....
The last type r integras, mustang Mach 1 and terminators, nsx, the special edition firebirds and trans ams, the s197 bullitt mustang, e46 m3, bmw 1M, and I think hellcat and scat pack challengers will be worth a good amount in the future. Really as v8 cars get phased out due to emissions and mpgs, all of this last breed of v8 muscle cars will be worth something.
Bold prediction: Tesla Roadster and single-engine Tesla Model S...
Problem is that most cars just keep depreciating. If you are asking about which ones may depreciate more slowly, fair enough. If you are asking if any will actually turn and begin to appreciate again, I'd say that you are looking a quarter century out and who even knows if we will be driving gasoline powered cars by then - your investment Viper may be illegal to drive.
I'd agree that the Tesla sport model is a good bet. You need rarity as well as at least decently good performance (I once had a friend that owned some sort of Chev. He was all stoked that it was one of a half dozen made that way, that year. It was something like a 6 cylinder engine with no power brakes and some other option - it was impossible to convince him that just because they'd only made a handful, didn't mean it would ever be worth anything).
Others that should hold value (i.e. depreciate more slowly) would be all some of the Vettes - Z06 etc., some of the special model Mustangs, and even the (God help us) Chryslers like the Hellcat.
The Pontiac Solstice is a good example of the rarity factor - convertibles continue to head down while the coupe prices (only 1200 made) are having a much slower decline.
03-04 Audi RS6 and 00-02 S4 Avant
An Integra Type R just sold on eBay for over $43K. Very low miles, all original.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/141601653407?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2648&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
A couple of years ago, a member in my region sold his ITR for about $8K. Clean and essentially original (he ran it in D-Stock), but with some miles (he and his g/f used it for DD after buying other cars to auto-x) and some typical Honda rear-quarter rust.
3 factors drive price - condition, desirability and availability. If it's desirable, rare and in great shape, it's gonna cost you. That's just the automotive version of the simple economic laws of supply/demand. Nothing except a hand full of super cars (6 figures and up to purchase now) is going to be 'rare' enough in 5-10-15 years to significantly appreciate in my opinion. You might do 'ok' on a car like a Boxster S or Cayman R or BMW M Coupe/Roadster, but it will take longer than 5-10 years to do really well. The high end, limited availability stuff (Carrera GT, 918, limited production Italian stuff, McLaren, etc.) may hold up because of limited production. But none of that is 'affordable' for most of us. As far as domestic stuff - I can't imagine there's anything that's going to significantly appreciate (a la Soltice, Saturn, etc.) unless it was very limited production AND desirable. Maybe one of the newer ZR1 Vettes or a GT500 Super Snake....maybe something like that.
Which means you have to look back 10-20-30 years for something relatively affordable now that will be even rarer in 10-15 years. And I'd only buy something with really low miles in outstanding condition -- and drive it only enough to keep it healthy. Keep the usage/mileage low. Someone touched on the last gen Supra's. I think they will begin to appreciate more than they have. Very clean first gen supercharged MR2's have already started to appreciate. Clean 240/260Z's. Perhaps a clean, low mileage 93 Mustang Cobra or the R-variant from a couple of years later. Clean versions of Saleen's early Stangs are commanding some dollars - you might get lucky finding one of those now at a reasonable price. There are some other 'tuner' cars that may work out - a clean C4 Callaway Vette or Callaway Alfa GTV for example. Lastly, you can buy some really nice early Japanese stuff (almost anything from Toyota or Datsun) from the 70's that's exceptionally clean/original and doesn't cost much now (under $15k, a lot of it under $10k) that will continue to appreciate. The 'odder' the better from an availability perspective -- Corona instead of Corolla, for example (...and that may bite you on desirability!). There's some German stuff from the same period, but a lot of it (2002 BMW, 74-84 911's, etc.) is already out of reach price-wise, per the thread guidelines.
There are other examples and possibilities, but one has to stay focused on those 3 criteria -- it's in fabulous shape, there aren't many available and more people than just you are interested in owning one.
So in a nutshell, you can place a bet on a minty & low-mileage car, but you will pretty much need to treat it as a "collectible car" now. If the thought is to buy something that may become collectible and then use it as your daily driver, then this may be wishful thinking.
If you watch the auction shows, you see cars like this all the time. Cars that were put away when nearly new and kept original. Sometimes they even sell for more than the original MSRP.
I agree on the Viper for sure, and the Twin Turbo Supra '93 - '98. It's a great car, but more importantly, they didn't sell in huge numbers and the Fast and Furious crowd grew up worshiping this car more-so than Ferraris and Corvettes. Back when we were racing them, we used to get swarmed by teenage boys at every food and fuel stop. There wasn't another car we raced that drew anywhere near the attention. Even in Nascar country it drew huge crowds. They are the holy grail of the JDM Yo crowd, and as they get money, expect to see big dollars on them at auction.
I think there will be a market for the early SRT cars. Viper of course, the SRT4 and to a lesser extent the 6. I expect the V10 trucks, especially the early ones, and the SRT Grand Cherokees will have fans. All of the SRT8 cars have a fan base.
The good thing about all of these cars is that you can actually drive them and I don't think you peel too much value off them.
Javelin wrote: You need the combination of rarity, performance, and desirability all together to make a real "investment".
And of those, desirability trumps rarity. I'm pretty sure they sold more MGBs in the '70s than Mercury Bobcats, and while neither is a really big money collector's item, the MGBs are worth a lot more and a lot easier to find a buyer for.
My own best bets would include the Lotus Elise, Toyota Supra TT, and the Acura Integra Type R.
NordicSaab wrote: For 25K I would be looking for a 93+ Toyota Supra TT with a stick. 25K is about entry with good ones going north of 40K. If I were to bet on any 90's car appreciating in value that would be it.
This came up for us this weekend, and I was stunned at the prices on Autotrader. I never paid attention and was expecting them to be in the 300ZX range. How wrong I was.
VW Golf Rs are holding their value pretty well, and are certainly rare and desirable enough. Time will tell.
How about a Mini John Cooper Works or a Celica GTS?
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