MKI_GT6
MKI_GT6 New Reader
3/17/13 8:50 p.m.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w7_N9Aenn8

I was cruising around youtube and found this. Thought it was pretty novel.

JoeyM
JoeyM UltimaDork
3/21/13 7:15 p.m.

Thanks. That is worth watching. The car is gorgeous, and even a luddite like me can appreciate the clever work involved.

I wish they had talked a little more about the suspension system and less about the frame. Remote reservoir shocks aren't new, but that low profile packaging is interesting.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong; the guy didn't mention springs, so this must be the hydraulic equivalent of an airbag setup. Is that a fair summary?

JeffHarbert
JeffHarbert GRM+ Memberand Reader
3/21/13 9:53 p.m.

From what I could tell, the in-wheel hydraulic cylinder just transfers motion into a hydraulic line(s) to a remote spring/shock unit. There's definitely a coil spring there. The shock part looked dual-adjustable, and he said in the video ride height was adjusted at the remote 'shock.'

ransom
ransom GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
3/21/13 11:38 p.m.

Thanks to huge, deep, modern wheels, they can now get it inside the wheel (more or less), but the concept is not new, and not, um, very good. It doesn't produce any camber gain in compression to compensate for body roll.

Morgan's been using a similar suspension (inboard of the pizza cutter wheels) since slightly after dirt became refined enough for broad adoption.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliding_pillar_suspension

JoeyM
JoeyM UltimaDork
3/22/13 12:27 a.m.
JeffHarbert wrote: There's definitely a coil spring there. The shock part looked dual-adjustable, and he said in the video ride height was adjusted at the remote 'shock.'

I may need to go back and rewatch it.....I heard the bit about ride adjustment, but didn't see any spring. That's why I was comparing it to something like this

ransom wrote: Thanks to huge, deep, modern wheels, they can now get it inside the wheel (more or less), but the concept is not new, and not, um, very good. It doesn't produce any camber gain in compression to compensate for body roll.

Lots of cars are set up for hard parking. This may be one of them.

ransom wrote: Morgan's been using a similar suspension (inboard of the pizza cutter wheels) since slightly after dirt became refined enough for broad adoption. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sliding_pillar_suspension

Then all we need's a fancy laminated ash chassis and we're good to go!

(FWIW, it is still a very pretty car. I bet it looks really nice at car shows, and the CNC tool marks on those machined bits make it stand out. Think of it as Boyd 2.0)

Hal
Hal Dork
3/30/13 4:19 p.m.
ransom wrote: It doesn't produce any camber gain in compression to compensate for body roll.

After looking at it 3 times, I am not sure about that. It seems like the way they have the suspension units angled may provide some camber gain.

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
4/7/13 8:22 a.m.

coil spring and damper are remote-mounted vertically at the firewall near the hood. think of it as a pushrod-actuated coilover, only in this case the pushrod is hydraulic.

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