pilotbraden
pilotbraden UltraDork
4/19/18 7:05 p.m.

I have a 1995 Miata that needs the engine pulled out and replaced or rebuilt. I also have as of Monday a thoroughly wrecked 2005 Ford Focus.  I recall seeing something on this board  that was mentioning put in a duratec  into a Miata .  I'm kind of banged up and not really motivated to look around for information I thought maybe somebody here  would have an answer for me .  The focus was destroyed  when a gentleman decided to turn left in front of me .  I took the worst of it  had a little glass in my forehead in my cheek  a banged-up elbow  and wrist and ribs that hurt bad  but I am getting better .  Any info would be appreciated . Thanks again, Braden

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
4/19/18 7:08 p.m.

I think the duratec swaps was into NC's, which have the MZR instead of a BP under the hood.

At least the easy swaps...

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/19/18 7:10 p.m.

I think it's been done at least once. You'll want the transmission from an NC Miata, probably NC Miata intake manifolds and a welder.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden UltraDork
4/19/18 7:23 p.m.

I was looking for something drop it in maybe fab a mount or two and build a header. I will just stick with making one good Miata engine out of two blocks and three heads. Thanks for the info

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
4/19/18 7:24 p.m.

A BP from an Escort or Protoge would largely swap over.  

Stampie
Stampie GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
4/19/18 7:25 p.m.

Glad you're ok. That looks like it could have been worse. 

pilotbraden
pilotbraden UltraDork
4/19/18 7:33 p.m.

Thank you for the concern The car is worse than the picture looks 

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
4/19/18 7:45 p.m.

Not gonna buff out!  

Wow, a tough week..on top of a tough year.  Hang in there!

Floating Doc
Floating Doc GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
4/19/18 7:50 p.m.

Glad you weren't hurt worse. Hope you recover quickly. 

RossD
RossD MegaDork
4/19/18 8:45 p.m.

Hope you heal up well! Like others are hinting at, a Duratec in an non-NC Miata, would be like swapping any other non-native 4 cylinder into it. Probably more work than gain in the outcome.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden UltraDork
4/19/18 8:55 p.m.
  • As I was sitting here thinking about life I remembered reading about duratecs and miatas . The engine in the Miata has been severely overheated. I have another engine that I pulled out of it that runs but Burns a quart of oil every 200 miles. I also have another cylinder head. I have a new radiator water pump all the gaskets timing belt . The plan is tear down both engines pick the best parts and put one back together putting new rings and new bearings in it. So when I remember the duratec I realized I have one that runs very well and if it would drop right in I would use it I don't feel like messing with a fabrication project right now
Stefan
Stefan GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/19/18 9:05 p.m.

In reply to pilotbraden :

Yep, you’ve got the wrong gen Miata for an easy drop-in.

The combine two motors to make one good one, is a sound plan.  Go for it.

Either save the duratec for another probject (ahem: Midlana) or let it go on down the road.

Matthew Kennedy
Matthew Kennedy GRM+ Memberand Reader
4/19/18 9:23 p.m.

In reply to RossD :

I looked it up and the Duratec is something like 80-90 pounds lighter than the 1.8, and makes a tiny bit more power and torque.  There isn't much benefit to be had, but there is some.

Vigo
Vigo UltimaDork
4/19/18 10:17 p.m.

I would look into doing a cylinder leakdown test on the oil burning engine before taking it apart, if you can. If it passes leakdown there's a good chance the only reason it burns oil is due to valve guide problems or clogged oil drains in the ringlands. Either way would be a near-free fix, in your case.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden UltraDork
4/20/18 4:15 a.m.

In reply to Vigo :

Thanks for the tip, I am hoping that I can just swap heads and have a good engine

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
4/20/18 2:25 p.m.

Yeah, wow, glad you're okay. Looks like a heck of a hit. 

Duke
Duke MegaDork
4/20/18 3:57 p.m.
John Welsh said:

Not gonna buff out!  

Wow, a tough week..on top of a tough year.  Hang in there!

Yeah, this.  That car looks bad.  I'm glad your prognosis is good.

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/20/18 7:47 p.m.

Do the leak down test for sure. My 94 would burn oil like no other till it's first track day. Running the piss out of it for a couple hours burned all of the crap out and didn't burn oil again for a long time. When ever it did, I just took it out to the track for the weekend. 

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