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Fitzauto
Fitzauto HalfDork
11/17/15 1:46 p.m.

In reply to Tyler H:

That sounds insane. Time for some reading.

Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/18/15 10:47 a.m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHvKZCsWito

Very limited pictures and videos out there...mostly just the whiners and criers on the Chumpcar forum. These guys showed up with a lot of resources, maximized the rulebook (and maybe then some) and then laid waste to the field. Some dumbass antics got them DQ'd. (Drifting past pit out after the checker and then going the wrong way on a hot track.) There's a video of that out there too.

But, if a team with apparently unlimited resources chose the 1UZ, there must be something to it.

It is a really pretty car.

Fitzauto
Fitzauto HalfDork
11/18/15 12:03 p.m.

That just looks nuts...but alas I dont have unlimited funds

FooBag
FooBag GRM+ Memberand New Reader
11/18/15 2:14 p.m.
Tyler H wrote: Go over to the Chumpcar forums and search for 400SX. Apparently some guys put a 1UZ in a 240sx and cleaned a bunch of people's clocks to the extent that they're all butthurt about it. Rumors (absurd?) that it was clocked at 165mph at Brainerd and all kinds of other lore. It's a veritable Keyser Söze

Several of my friends were at this race & saw the radar gun showing ~160mph on this car. There was also a restart at some point during the race. After 2 laps, the car was roughly a full minute ahead of second place. It was pretty incredible. The antics that followed are unfortunate though.

Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/18/15 3:57 p.m.
FooBag wrote: After 2 laps, the car was roughly a full minute ahead of second place.

^^Leads me to believe they were sandbaggin in the few videos posted.

There's plenty of room for them to have cheated, but I can't prove that they did, and I believe the swap is possible within the current rule set. Now whether a 160mph+ capable car on the "2x" suspension and brake rule, with stock aero is a good idea....Not sure. I like it and applaud the build.

Fitzauto
Fitzauto HalfDork
11/18/15 5:30 p.m.

That 1uz in the local yard keeps getting more and more attractive

mr2peak
mr2peak GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/18/15 8:15 p.m.

1uz is significantly lighter, and shorter. Later gen motors can't take boost due to skinny rods.

Easy boost? 1/2JZ

300hp in a light V8? 1UZ

Easy 700hp, JZ

Built 1uz > built 2jz. Toyota swaps out JZ's for UZ's when they go racing.

Dbussey1
Dbussey1 New Reader
11/19/15 10:42 a.m.

Tell me more about the 2jz manual transmission options (on the cheap). An NA 2jz powered lexus could provide an interesting, cheap donor for an old inline 6 falcon or mustang

yupididit
yupididit HalfDork
11/19/15 11:46 a.m.

On the cheap would be a W58. You can usually get them for about $200 to $500. At least around here and depending on the car it came out of.

Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/19/15 1:05 p.m.
Dbussey1 wrote: An NA 2jz powered lexus could provide an interesting, cheap donor for an old inline 6 falcon or mustang

The NA 2JZ-GE is the an evolutionary cul-de-sac of an engine family that harkens WAY back. Stock, they're smooth and run a long time, as long as you're okay with dismal fuel economy on premium and about 215hp. I love a straight 6 engine, but would opt for something a little saucier if I were going to the trouble of a swap.

Until the late 90's, everything upscale in Japanland had some kind of straight 6. There's a whole array of crazy low-displacement, high revving, force-fed L6 engines that we never got here. BMW also made a few L6 engines, I hear.

The 2JZ-GTE (turbo) engine is not just a 2JZ with a couple of turbos bolted on.

Fitzauto
Fitzauto HalfDork
11/19/15 1:18 p.m.
Dbussey1 wrote: Tell me more about the 2jz manual transmission options (on the cheap). An NA 2jz powered lexus could provide an interesting, cheap donor for an old inline 6 falcon or mustang

If you have the money you can get an adapter for either a 350z tranny or 300zx (2nd gen) tranny. Both are cheap and hold power well.

singleslammer
singleslammer UberDork
11/19/15 1:21 p.m.

In reply to Fitzauto:

There are stock Yota transmissions that will bolt to it with factory gear. If you are having to adapt another makes transmission, the UZ V8s take a huge leap up IMO.

Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/19/15 1:36 p.m.

I think the W58 and R154 transmissions probably bolt right on to the 2-JZ engine. Many Aisin transmissions will probably fit, if you get creative. There was an article a while back of someone putting a 2JZ in a Soltice and reusing the stock Solstice Aisin transmission, with a bolt on bellhousing from a Supra.

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
11/19/15 3:52 p.m.

Keep in mind that Toyotas are not like Chevys. A W58 transmission probablly does bolt up to a 2JZ block, but only with the right bell housing. And every block needs a different bell housing. So if you have a W5x from a RN Truck, that is only going to bolt up to a R series block, like 22R, 20R, 18RG, etc., without a different bell housing.

If you're going with a 2jz, then get the motor and trans together when you buy it. That way you know you have all the bits and that they work together. If you're going with a 1UZ, then you're blazing new territory and it doesn't matter.

Didn't I hear of a 2UZ or 3UZ motor in a truck or something with a manual transmission? If you can get that trans, it should bolt up to a 1UZ motor. Theoretically.

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