A buddy of mine has a 2002 (IIRC) Audi A4 1.8 (non-turbo, IIRC). Anyhow, he had the timing belt done last summer, but the belt just broke. I would assume his engine is toast, and he asked me about the best way to get rid of it and get whatever it's worth for it. Said it was running/driving great before the engine went - and he's the kind of guy who does dealer maintenance when it should be done. Exterior I would rate "good" but not perfect, and he had both bumpers replaced recently (had a lot of scratches from having to parallel park in the city).
Anyhow, any suggestions on what (if any) value this thing has? He's not much of a car guy and I'm not much of an Audi guy. Also, if someone wants it, LMK and I'll get you in touch with him.
Josh
If its a 1.8 it has a turbo, Im sure someone would want it, but probably under $1k as far as value.
The engine's not toast, it just needs a new belt and pulleys and all eight exhaust valves. Happens all the time when people adjust the belt improperly and it walks to the side.
MKI_GT6
New Reader
3/3/13 3:29 p.m.
If the timing belt broke the bottom half of the motor should be okay. The 1.8 head is rebuildable. We send them out to the local machine shop alot. A junk yard head and new belt is a good option too. Just make sure he replaces the water pump, and all pully's and tensioners for the timing belt. They dont usually out live the belt by very long.
Ian F
PowerDork
3/3/13 3:30 p.m.
Yes. 1.8 is a turbo. 2.8 is not, but is a V6, but by 02 I think the V6 was a 3.0.
Manual trans? AWD? Avant? Miles? Other options? All would affect potential value. My gut says a couple of grand.
It's a crap shoot whether or not the broken belt did more than just valve damage. A rebuilt head is a given, but it may need more. Just ask Sonic...
If it's a 3.0 V6 and it ate a belt, just walk away from it. The 3.0 gets very expensive very fast if you don't maintain them properly. (Step 1: Don't break a timing belt.)
Audi made some drastic changes to the 3.0 that mean they are not as friendly to work on as the 2.7/2.8 engines, which were anvils.
4g63t
HalfDork
3/3/13 4:25 p.m.
like a $500 timing belt tool
Or bolted-together cam sprockets that back the bolts out and destroy the $1200 cam position adjusters, assuming that it doesn't eat the belt in the process...
Don't get me wrong, I really like the 3.0, because nobody else around here will touch 'em, but it's heartbreaking to see how deferred maintenance can add up to a $7000-8000 repair bill. Fortunately (?) the cars aren't worth that much anymore so they go to junkyard.
Auto or Manual? IF manual, the odds of finding an enthusiast who wants to put a built 1.8T in are reasonably high if the car is clean. Also, there's a growing population putting 4.2 V8's in these...this could be a decent candidate. If you were local and the car was clean? Easily $1k.
I've seen 1.8Ts break a timing belt at freeway speeds, not pretty. Required block replacement because the piston shoved the offending valves between the head and block.
That's probably a rare occurrence, but you don't know until the head is pulled.
NGTD
Dork
3/5/13 1:51 p.m.
My 99 Passat had the tensioner let go south of Barrie, ON and I drove it home to North Bay, about a 3 hr drive at 120 km/h or roughly 3200 rpm.
I drove it down to the VW dealer. Tech brought it in and removed the belt without any tools - it had 0 tension.
They told me to go buy a lottery ticket.
NGTD wrote:
My 99 Passat had the tensioner let go south of Barrie, ON and I drove it home to North Bay, about a 3 hr drive at 120 km/h or roughly 3200 rpm.
I drove it down to the VW dealer. Tech brought it in and removed the belt without any tools - it had 0 tension.
They told me to go buy a lottery ticket.
Buy me one while you're at it.
I have seen a couple come in making horrendous noise from the tensioner and others with no tension on the belt too. Lucky SOBs