Trying to help a buddy find the turn signal flasher relay in it.
Anyone know? Cause Google ain't helping me....
Trying to help a buddy find the turn signal flasher relay in it.
Anyone know? Cause Google ain't helping me....
One thing I found on Google implies that the flashing function mechanism is integrated into the turn signal stalk/switch itself.
https://www.fixya.com/cars/t10465870-location_signal_relay_2002
If that is correct, these links take us to a 2006 Lincoln LS service manual for steering wheel and switch removal instructions:
http://deneau.info/ls/s6x~us~en~file=s6xb4005.htm~gen~ref.htm
http://deneau.info/ls/s6x~us~en~file=s6xb5002.htm~gen~ref.htm
That second link says that the switch part number is 13K359
Ebay sample of that switch/stalk
But, before going forward, I would try to get a second source that says the relay is in the switch.
You got way further with Google than I did John. Thank you! Hopefully somebody else will time in and confirm it's in the turn signal switch or deny it. These cars are strange.
What I linked to above is a little weird in that it gives an answer but it doesn't give the question. If I re-read it, it sort of says that the hazard switch contains the relay that causes the flashing but the relay is powered by the turn signal switch. It seems to imply that the wear/use of the turn signal switch causes no power to be sent to the hazard switch to do the flashing.
So, restated, as I read it...
Bad, worn stalk could be the culprit sending no signal to hazard switch.
or
If stalk is good, bad hazard switch could be the culprit.
Dusterbd13-michael (Forum Supporter) said:Trying to help a buddy find the turn signal flasher relay in it.
This is just a guess, but I bet there is no flasher relay and one of the BCMs controls the actual on/off flashing. What are the symptoms? Front and back lights on one side not working? Both back lights? Only one light? Lights on continually? etc. Maybe we can narrow it down to a couple possible components.
If it helps, here is a link to the fuse/relay box locations and functions:
Hes got a hyperflash issue going after a switch to led bulbs. So, no actual known fault by us. But, generally hes been able to change out to an led compatible flasher to fix it.
If its all integrated with no external changeable flasher, that would explain why I or him haven't found it....
There is no stand alone flasher relay.
It's controlled by modules.
Resistors.
Saron81 said:There is no stand alone flasher relay.
It's controlled by modules.
I'm pretty sure that this is correct.
Saron81 said:There is no stand alone flasher relay.
It's controlled by modules.
The PFM module. Pure F#cking Magic
Seriously. Resistors.
sergio said:Saron81 said:There is no stand alone flasher relay.
It's controlled by modules.The PFM module. Pure F#cking Magic
Kinda... lol. The fronts go from the switch, to the cluster, to the interior junction box, to the front electronic module, then to the lamps.
The rears follow a similar path through the rear electronic module, and the battery junction box.
It's not simple.
This design is nuts.
Thanks all. Told him to get resistors.
I never understood... part of the reason for going to led’s - at least for me - is for the less current draw. If I then have to add a resister (bringing the current draw back up) then I have defeated my purpose.
Granted the led MIGHT last longer, but still ...
Think I'd just go back to stock bulbs.
I never understood... part of the reason for going to led’s - at least for me - is for the less current draw. If I then have to add a resister (bringing the current draw back up) then I have defeated my purpose.
Old stuff is goofy. I mean, if you think about it, the old school turn signal flasher is basically turning some of your turn signal current into heat in your interior to get the turn signals to flash.
I like LEDs in terms of getting way more brightness for the same current flow but i dont care much in terms of 'appearance' if you aren't changing brightness, and i dont think incandescent lighting was that unreliable in the first place, so im in the camp that would put the stock bulbs back in and forget about it in this case.
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