Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem New Reader
7/12/16 5:01 a.m.

Suppose I purchase a car for $400. I sell various parts from the car for $500. Is my recoup for my build budget $500? Or am I limited to $400?

Second question. Suppose I'm competing in the $1008 build class. Is my recoup allowance from parts sold still $1008? Or is it $504?

Thanks in advance

Jim

NordicSaab
NordicSaab HalfDork
7/12/16 5:51 a.m.

From the rules: "For 2016, the most you can recoup through parts sales is $1008"

I don't think there is any limit on recoup vs purchase price. For purchase price:

"For 2016, the max you can initially pay for a Challenge car is $2016."

I think the above it intended to generate an upper threshold.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem New Reader
7/12/16 6:06 a.m.

Thanks. Not trying budget shenanigans. Just trying to play by rules for what is likely a poor finish in my first challenge.

itsarebuild
itsarebuild GRM+ Memberand Dork
7/12/16 7:52 a.m.

I thought the most you could recoup from a car was what you paid for it or half of the competition year whichever is less. But I could be wrong.....

singleslammer
singleslammer UberDork
7/12/16 8:00 a.m.

Yes, I believe that is true. A $600 car can be recouped to $600. A $1200 car can only get $1008 assuming that is all you are claiming. With maximum recoup, you can spend up to 1.5x the year or $3024.

maschinenbau
maschinenbau GRM+ Memberand Reader
7/12/16 8:07 a.m.
singleslammer wrote: Yes, I believe that is true. A $600 car can be recouped to $600. A $1200 car can only get $1008 assuming that is all you are claiming. With maximum recoup, you can spend up to 1.5x the year or $3024.

That's how I understand it too.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
7/12/16 8:13 a.m.
singleslammer wrote: Yes, I believe that is true. A $600 car can be recouped to $600. A $1200 car can only get $1008 assuming that is all you are claiming. With maximum recoup, you can spend up to 1.5x the year or $3024.

It's probably a moot point because I doubt I can recoup any where near the purchase price of my car from what junk I pull off it. The Justang build seems to have sold more in parts than the car purchase price subject to $1007 cap but I may be wrong.

In any event better to err on side of caution. This is abo,it having fun and not bending budget rules

NordicSaab
NordicSaab HalfDork
7/12/16 8:32 a.m.
itsarebuild wrote: I thought the most you could recoup from a car was what you paid for it or half of the competition year whichever is less. But I could be wrong.....

I remembered this as well, but I could not find that language anywhere in the 2016 rules. Nor could I find any language disallowing it... So, theoretically, one could show up with a negative value car?

dyintorace
dyintorace GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
7/12/16 9:26 a.m.
Ovid_and_Flem wrote:
singleslammer wrote: Yes, I believe that is true. A $600 car can be recouped to $600. A $1200 car can only get $1008 assuming that is all you are claiming. With maximum recoup, you can spend up to 1.5x the year or $3024.
The Justang build seems to have sold more in parts than the car purchase price subject to $1007 cap but I may be wrong.

I picked up on that as well in the magazine feature on that car. They claimed more recoup than allowed, based on my understanding of the rules.

Ovid_and_Flem
Ovid_and_Flem Reader
7/12/16 11:17 a.m.

Well, whatever the rules it's still good cheap, fun event. And regardless I will say it's turned out to a lot of fun and the budget constraints really make the entrants, our team included, to get creative and innovative.

echoechoecho
echoechoecho Reader
7/12/16 2:59 p.m.

where is this rule you guys are talking about? I read the rules as the most you can recoup through parts sales/trade is 1008. It doest not matter what the price of the car was as long as it was under the price of the year.

tomtomgt356
tomtomgt356 GRM+ Memberand Reader
7/12/16 3:04 p.m.

Take this with a grain of salt as I have never been to the challenge:

I think the rule used to be worded that you can not recoup more than the purchase price of the car up to a max of half the challenge budget. The way I read the current rule, you can recoup up to half the budget ($1,008 in 2016). It doesn't mater if you buy the car for $2000 or $20, you can recoup up to a total of $1,008 from selling parts off of it.

Robbie
Robbie UltraDork
7/12/16 10:33 p.m.

Sell $1008 worth of stuff off a $400 car and still be left with something to race = I won't be mad, I'll be impressed.

NordicSaab
NordicSaab HalfDork
7/13/16 5:21 a.m.
Robbie wrote: Sell $1008 worth of stuff off a $400 car and still be left with something to race = I won't be mad, I'll be impressed.

Well... right now I've spent about $600 on my car (Purchase price and parts) and sold my $1008 full allowance of parts. So my current build budget is negative $400.

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