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TIGMOTORSPORTS
TIGMOTORSPORTS Dork
10/4/17 4:57 a.m.
KyAllroad
KyAllroad PowerDork
10/4/17 5:04 a.m.

Between inflation and scope creep it was inevitable that someone would get there.  I'll never have that sort of money but it seems that people out there do so this being 'Murica a manufacturer is ready to capitalize on that.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/4/17 7:01 a.m.

it's a third the price of my house... that's all I have because to think that a pickup could cost that much is just thinkable.

jstand
jstand HalfDork
10/4/17 7:05 a.m.
mad_machine said:

it's a third the price of my house... that's all I have because to think that a pickup could cost that much is just thinkable.

Fortunately your house doesn’t depreciate like a $100k truck.

It probably won’t drop as quickly as a $100k car, but it will probably still be a fairly steep slide. 

pinchvalve
pinchvalve GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/4/17 7:07 a.m.
mad_machine said:

it's a third the price of my house... that's all I have because to think that a pickup could cost that much is just thinkable.

Its 98% of my house.  (yeah cheap housing market!) 

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
10/4/17 7:10 a.m.

And the dealers are salivating at getting them on the lot as they know they will be flying out the door as fast as they can ship them.  

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/4/17 7:23 a.m.
Adrian_Thompson said:

And the dealers are salivating at getting them on the lot as they know they will be flying out the door as fast as they can ship them.  

I would thank those buyers for the increase in my profit sharing check, but we don't get those increase in profits anymore.  

STM317
STM317 Dork
10/4/17 7:55 a.m.

It might cost as much as a house, but you can't drive your house to the mall.

RossD
RossD MegaDork
10/4/17 8:10 a.m.

Just for kicks, I started to 'build' an Escalade ESC and in three clicks I'm at $99,990. That's the long wheelbase suburban, with the top of the line trim Platinum Package, 4x4, and a $600 add for some fancy red paint. I didn't even get to the interior options.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
10/4/17 8:27 a.m.

In reply to STM317 :

I don't know, these things habe ridiculous towing capacities these days, and some people live small.

Patrick
Patrick GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/4/17 8:33 a.m.

My house was 103k.  I felt sick spending 44 on a truck(until the first time i towed a heavy load with it), can't imagine 94k.  That's like all my cars added up with room to buy more. And no more capacity than the stripped down work version, just 40k more in doo-dads and silly crap one doesn't actually need to tow a 17k trailer

rslifkin
rslifkin SuperDork
10/4/17 8:36 a.m.
Patrick said:

40k more in doo-dads and silly crap one doesn't actually need to tow a 17k trailer

True, but if someone is expecting to be towing something 8+ hours on a regular basis, that extra 40k of stuff is going to make them a lot more happy / comfy.  

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
10/4/17 8:38 a.m.
RossD said:

Just for kicks, I started to 'build' an Escalade ESC and in three clicks I'm at $99,990. That's the long wheelbase suburban, with the top of the line trim Platinum Package, 4x4, and a $600 add for some fancy red paint. I didn't even get to the interior options.

Not quite apples to oranges, but I was told that many Lincoln Navigators leave the dealer with a price over $250USD in China where import tax is high.  Lincoln is the fastest growing luxury brand in China right now.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
10/4/17 8:41 a.m.
Patrick said:

My house was 103k.  I felt sick spending 44 on a truck(until the first time i towed a heavy load with it), can't imagine 94k.  That's like all my cars added up with room to buy more. And no more capacity than the stripped down work version, just 40k more in doo-dads and silly crap one doesn't actually need to tow a 17k trailer

Hey look, this is turning into one of those 'Modern Trucks are too expensive and have too much un-needed crap on them' threads, we haven't had one in a couple of weeks!  Guess what.  They sell and they sell well so people want them.  We need to get over that and except that people buy what they want, and for some reason what they want is uber luxury pick up trucks.  It's not your or my money so why do we care?

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
10/4/17 8:44 a.m.
alfadriver said:  

I would thank those buyers for the increase in my profit sharing check, but we don't get those increase in profits anymore.  

Not quite true.  Automotive revenue, Operating margin and cash flow all factor into AICP

759NRNG
759NRNG Dork
10/4/17 8:52 a.m.

'There's a sucker born every minute' P.T. Barnum

Tyler H
Tyler H GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
10/4/17 8:55 a.m.
STM317 said:

It might cost as much as a house, but you can't drive your house to the mall.

Inaccurate.

Patrick
Patrick GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/4/17 8:55 a.m.
Adrian_Thompson said:
Patrick said:

My house was 103k.  I felt sick spending 44 on a truck(until the first time i towed a heavy load with it), can't imagine 94k.  That's like all my cars added up with room to buy more. And no more capacity than the stripped down work version, just 40k more in doo-dads and silly crap one doesn't actually need to tow a 17k trailer

Hey look, this is turning into one of those 'Modern Trucks are too expensive and have too much un-needed crap on them' threads, we haven't had one in a couple of weeks!  Guess what.  They sell and they sell well so people want them.  We need to get over that and except that people buy what they want, and for some reason what they want is uber luxury pick up trucks.  It's not your or my money so why do we care?

You need a snickers

spitfirebill
spitfirebill UltimaDork
10/4/17 8:55 a.m.

My first house cost $43k. 

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/4/17 9:04 a.m.
Adrian_Thompson said:
Patrick said:

My house was 103k.  I felt sick spending 44 on a truck(until the first time i towed a heavy load with it), can't imagine 94k.  That's like all my cars added up with room to buy more. And no more capacity than the stripped down work version, just 40k more in doo-dads and silly crap one doesn't actually need to tow a 17k trailer

Hey look, this is turning into one of those 'Modern Trucks are too expensive and have too much un-needed crap on them' threads, we haven't had one in a couple of weeks!  Guess what.  They sell and they sell well so people want them.  We need to get over that and except that people buy what they want, and for some reason what they want is uber luxury pick up trucks.  It's not your or my money so why do we care?

yes, but they use the excuse of not enough profits in the Fiesta ST to stop importing it. They can't move enough hot hatches to keep bring them in, but can sell every tarted up truck they can buy.

Maybe I am in the minority here, but except for a few glaring exceptions, I do not use a lot of the gimmicks new cars have. I use the sunroofs, heated seats, and stereo on my truck. I have not touched the power seats since getting them "just right" I always manually run the automatic climate control to either full on heat or nothing, and I think I have adjusted the mirrors a couple of times after people have bumped them. The rest are just fluff (to me) that I just do not need or even use.

wae
wae Dork
10/4/17 9:18 a.m.

Yeah, it's expensive...  But if you're going to be spending hours and hours in it pulling your $100,000 5er around the country, all that comfort and bling might be worth it if you've got it to spend!

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
10/4/17 9:23 a.m.
Adrian_Thompson said:
alfadriver said:  

I would thank those buyers for the increase in my profit sharing check, but we don't get those increase in profits anymore.  

Not quite true.  Automotive revenue, Operating margin and cash flow all factor into AICP

Right, and we really don't know what the actual targets are- so it's easy to say that during years that we had record profits that we didn't hit one or more targets.  Which is incredibly frustrating- as all of that profit has to go someplace. 

And we've had record years for a few years now, but are somehow in serious trouble again.  WTF.

java230
java230 SuperDork
10/4/17 9:50 a.m.

Doesn't surprise me at all, my non optioned (XLT) out F450 stickerd for 82k in 2008. Add leather and heated everything and it adds up. Crazy $$ still though.

yupididit
yupididit Dork
10/4/17 9:52 a.m.

Luxury pickups are like the best of all worlds. But, You gotta pay to have it like all things. And those loaded superduties are just ugh lovely to me. Most people will find them excessive, but they sure sell like heroin. 

NickD
NickD SuperDork
10/4/17 9:53 a.m.
RossD said:

Just for kicks, I started to 'build' an Escalade ESC and in three clicks I'm at $99,990. That's the long wheelbase suburban, with the top of the line trim Platinum Package, 4x4, and a $600 add for some fancy red paint. I didn't even get to the interior options.

The Escalade came up while we were discussing this at my work too, and we realized that the Escalade is more expensive and less useful, which makes the F-350 seem a better deal. Escalade can carry a family, the F-350 can carry a family and tow your house around behind it.

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