Despite some manufactures shifting away from sedans (hello, Ford?) Lexus has been fleshing out their IS line. Here, we’re going to crib from their official media site:
“The 2018 IS 300 and IS 350 are available in RWD and AWD. Both offer an F SPORT model that further revs up the bold style and handling agility.
“The IS 300, in …
I'm sitting here wondering how bad they had to intentionally screw up the 3.5L to make it make only 260hp. That's less than they made when they launched in Camrys 12 years ago.
Changing the name from IS200t to IS300 probably doesn't change the fact that this car in 2.0T form provides very underpar acceleration compared to everyone else and their mother's 2.0Ts, even Hyundai/Kia (which are also underperformers). 7+ sec 0-60, 89mph 1/4 mile. In a luxury car? $38,000ish? Hmm. An ATS 2.0T is pretty sprightly and i wonder if the Lexus 2.0 gains 100hp with a tune as the BMW 320 does.
I really like the interior on the current IS. I think the temp sliders on the HVAC controls are especially fun.
Sounds like you got to test the one I’d want if I were willing to spend the money on a new one. RWD without the F-Sport is my preference (well, I’d skip the Levinson sound system, too). I really like the IS, but almost every modern one sold near me is either AWD, or has the F-Sport (read way too harsh for a luxury car) suspension.
Vigo said:I'm sitting here wondering how bad they had to intentionally screw up the 3.5L to make it make only 260hp. That's less than they made when they launched in Camrys 12 years ago.
Seriously, Nissan's VQ35 cars (Maxima, Altima, Z, G35, etc) were putting out 265-280 reliable horsepower back in 2002....that's 16 years ago~!
In my recent new-car browsing I had thoughts of an IS series as something that is RWD/AWD and figures to be reliable.... I would be willing to overlook the hideous grilles on these things if only they came with three pedals. But none of the new ones appear to, so on to "next brand" I go.
Vigo said:I'm sitting here wondering how bad they had to intentionally screw up the 3.5L to make it make only 260hp. That's less than they made when they launched in Camrys 12 years ago.
That's the AWD IS300 model. The regular IS350 makes 311 hp.
Vigo said:I'm sitting here wondering how bad they had to intentionally screw up the 3.5L to make it make only 260hp. That's less than they made when they launched in Camrys 12 years ago.
Changing the name from IS200t to IS300 probably doesn't change the fact that this car in 2.0T form provides very underpar acceleration compared to everyone else and their mother's 2.0Ts
Cheebus, DW's middle-age-mobile S60 makes 240 hp out of a 2.0T, with almost 260 lbs of torque to match, from 1500 rpm.
[edit] Missed that part of the original post. That's in line with what Lexus's 2.0t makes. But the Volvo is about 6.2 seconds 0-60.
The Lexus identity styling is cleaned up a lot here, but they still need to lose that goblin shark face and get the proportions under control.
Hasn't some detuning been necessary to meet smog regs? I remember someone talking about how the powerhouse NA Honda 4 cylinders of a few years ago wouldn't make the cut right now.
Also, peak figures never tell the whole tale. On a luxury sports sedan like the IS I could see tehm tuning for broader, flatter curves over max outputs.
I remember someone talking about how the powerhouse NA Honda 4 cylinders of a few years ago wouldn't make the cut right now.
Funny you should mention that. The current Accord has a 2.0T as well.. it hits 0-60 in 5.7. The base engine is a 1.5L turbo that runs the 1/4 mile at... 89mph. So the base Lexus is as fast as an Accord with a Civic engine
. A 4cyl Camry is slightly faster in a 1/4 mile even with no turbo. That list could probably go on.
Accord's previous non-turbo 4cyl Accord base model was as fast as the old Prelude (top dog 4cyl honda when launched), which coincidentally also means it was as fast as a new $38,000 Lexus.
I get that speed isn't everything, but I also feel like a truly premium product shouldnt be so objectively underpar when compared with much cheaper products that have even less sporting pretensions.
Vigo said:I'm sitting here wondering how bad they had to intentionally screw up the 3.5L to make it make only 260hp. That's less than they made when they launched in Camrys 12 years ago.
Changing the name from IS200t to IS300 probably doesn't change the fact that this car in 2.0T form provides very underpar acceleration compared to everyone else and their mother's 2.0Ts, even Hyundai/Kia (which are also underperformers). 7+ sec 0-60, 89mph 1/4 mile. In a luxury car? $38,000ish? Hmm. An ATS 2.0T is pretty sprightly and i wonder if the Lexus 2.0 gains 100hp with a tune as the BMW 320 does.
I really like the interior on the current IS. I think the temp sliders on the HVAC controls are especially fun.
I'm going to guess that there has been NO CHANGES in emissions regulations in the last 12 years?
In all likelihood, they detuned the engine to allow it to play nicely with the AWD system.
Toyota did this with the Matrix' 1ZZ also (130hp in FWD, 123hp in AWD). Likely the drivetrain isn't able to withstand the full power of the 3.5L
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