jmabarone said:What manager at GM looked at what Ford did with the Mustang Mach E and thought "yeah, let's get some of that."?
One that can read a sales chart?
jmabarone said:What manager at GM looked at what Ford did with the Mustang Mach E and thought "yeah, let's get some of that."?
One that can read a sales chart?
STM317 said:Ahh yes... another expensive performance CUV. Just in time for the next recession.
Honestly, I have no problem with it if it has Corvette performance. Using the Alpha chassis indicates RWD bias with AWD potential and capability to fit most of GM's powerplants which is a good start.
The rich have gotten much, much richer recently. Expensive performance SUVs have been one segment that's sold really well.
If this is really a 2025, dealer "market adjustments" won't die off until 2026...I hope we're not in a recession 3 years from now, but it's entirely possible
I'm a 3-time Mustang owner (all V8/manuals). After riding shotgun for a 0-60 rip in a Mach E GT at the NY Auto Show this week, I can live with them calling it a Mustang, especially as the regular Mustang is still for sale alongside it.
Tom_Spangler (Forum Supporter) said:jmabarone said:What manager at GM looked at what Ford did with the Mustang Mach E and thought "yeah, let's get some of that."?
One that can read a sales chart?
No. They are looking at the sales numbers of this bloated thing:
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) said:In reply to Olemiss540 :
Traverse+Corvette+travesty= Travettesty.
i just spit my drink on my keyboard
In reply to calteg :
It's very common for expensive things to sell well before a recession. The upper middle class and retiree buyers for a vehicle like this will tighten the purse strings when the economy slows. My concern was less about trying to sell this during a recession and more about GM delaying it, killing it completely, or worst case changing it into some econobox branding project while it's still being developed during a recession. We saw in the aftermath of the GFC how conservative car OEMs can get. Projects rarely see massive change after contracts are signed with suppliers and production has been allocated to certain plants. But if the economy goes sideways in the next 12 months while this thing is still nascent, then anything could happen.
Yikes. That is quite ugly.
I'm ok with the idea, I personally think that Ford has executed it well, but this seems to be falling too much into the "cheap plastic" reputation of the Corvette rather than the V8 berkeley YEAH reputation of it. Why not start with an Escalade and lower it and chop the top a little? Why did they go from bland to bland with stick-on-ugly when they had the Escalade to start from? Or Lyric?
I'm surprised that I'm surprised. But I am. Then I remember there are SUVs by Porsche, Lamborghini, Aston Martin, Ferrari, etc. I guess the difference is those are all car makers, not a model.
Its stupid to me, but I've never driven one. Hell, it might even be faster than the Corvette if it has AWD.
What a weird world. I think I'd be less bothered if car companies were still making small, affordable, fun to drive cars like the Mazda 2, Honda Fit and Ford Fiesta.
In reply to dj06482 (Forum Supporter) :
The other thing about the Mach E is it's surprisingly small. It's almost more of a CUV than an SUV. Especially when seen next to other common SUVs.
Error404 said:That is not a Corvette.
Unless it comes with white NB's, tube socks, and khaki cargo shorts as factory standard. Then sure, no one asked but GM went ahead and did it anyway.
Why would it come with a white Miata?
Why the hate? If you don't like it don't buy it.
Personally, I'd probably buy one of those before I bought a vette.
Except for the whole $100k price tag.
I'm thinking this was meant to be released on April 1st, but in true GM fashion it was late and only half finished. April Fools indeed.
GM has a truck division. Two actually. This is akin to selling Saturns and Cavaliers and Sunfires all at the same time. Just put a Cadillac badge on it already.
Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to dj06482 (Forum Supporter) :
The other thing about the Mach E is it's surprisingly small. It's almost more of a CUV than an SUV. Especially when seen next to other common SUVs.
In all fairness, I sat in the front, which had a good amount of room. But my wife and two sons fit in the back seat pretty well. It's definitely a decent size, but I would also say it's not bloated. It's definitely looks smaller in person than you expect it to be.
This is weird. GM has always been so protective of the Corvette "brand" to the extent of killing good vehicles because they couldn't let something else outperform their flagship. Then they would just slap the name on an suv?
Olemiss540 said:iansane said:I know GM loves to badge engineer everything but is this just a traverse?
Travette
Travesty has a nice ring to it!
travesty
trav·es·ty ˈtra-və-stē
1
: a debased, distorted, or grossly inferior imitation
a travesty of justice
2
: a burlesque translation or literary or artistic imitation usually grotesquely incongruous in style, treatment, or subject matter
SCG Boot is calling your name. It's already got the Corvette motor mounted just in front of the rear axle.
jmabarone said:What manager at GM looked at what Ford did with the Mustang Mach E and thought "yeah, let's get some of that."?
The younger sibling of the manager at Ford.
thatsnowinnebago said:Error404 said:That is not a Corvette.
Unless it comes with white NB's, tube socks, and khaki cargo shorts as factory standard. Then sure, no one asked but GM went ahead and did it anyway.
Why would it come with a white Miata?
Presumably that's the sporty car part of it and the form factor justifies the bougie price tag this will command. I guess if you still have new car money right now you need some way to flaunt it while taking on the treacherous parking lot puddles at the Nordstrom Outlet.
GM is odd. So they're trying to create a separate high performance luxury brand to sell status symbols under the "Corvette" name when they already have a performance and luxury brand... Cadillac.
Also, haha. And people thought Mustang fans were pissed off with the Mach-E. Those guys aren't even near the fanaticism of Corvette dudes.
It will be a heck of a car though. Just think of it as a really fast station wagon ;)
gearheadmb said:This is weird. GM has always been so protective of the Corvette "brand" to the extent of killing good vehicles because they couldn't let something else outperform their flagship. Then they would just slap the name on an suv?
If that were true they would have axed it after about 1973 and then revived it when it was ready again. They did irreparable damage to the brand with the anemic 'disco Vette' era.
BlueInGreen - Jon said:GM is odd. So they're trying to create a separate high performance luxury brand to sell status symbols under the "Corvette" name when they already have a performance and luxury brand... Cadillac.
Also, haha. And people thought Mustang fans were pissed off with the Mach-E. Those guys aren't even near the fanaticism of Corvette dudes.
It will be a heck of a car though. Just think of it as a really fast station wagon ;)
I was raised a GM guy and love some of the weird junk they've put out but they've made some incredibly boneheaded decisions over the years to the point I'm surprised they're still around.
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