DCharger68
DCharger68 Reader
5/23/14 9:13 p.m.

Specs on each? Weight, wheelbase, factory engine options, aerodynamics, etc. A couple friends and I are settling an argument over which one has the most potential. I'd also like to know your opinions and preferences on them. I personally prefer the Dart, but I'm also a Mopar man at heart.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/23/14 9:15 p.m.

not sure the word "aerodynamics" plays into any of them.

I am partial to the comet, only because it was the last car my Great Grandmother owned and it served her well for 15 or so years driving back and forth from Florida to NJ

Junkyard_Dog
Junkyard_Dog SuperDork
5/23/14 9:33 p.m.
  1. Comet

  2. Dart

3.Nova

...and I really like 67 Novas, but from a pure potential point of view, they are harder to get V8s in. 67 Comet will take a big block (390) easily, and 427+ with some shock tower work. 67 Dart will take a 383 easily, and a 440 with some work. Nova needs a new front end or front sump pan just for a small block. Big blocks are worse. If you ever want to turn, the order stays the same. Comets share enough Mustang DNA that most of that stuff should work. Dart/Mopar suspensions are a known quantity and can be made to work fairly well in the twisties. 67 Nova front end has the least support without ripping it out and replacing it with something else. Bump it a year to 68, and things change drastically.

DCharger68
DCharger68 Reader
5/23/14 9:40 p.m.

In reply to Junkyard_Dog: What happens with the same 3 in 68?

oldopelguy
oldopelguy SuperDork
5/23/14 10:04 p.m.

Newer Nova front suspension changes to pretty much the same as Camaro, which moves it up the list.

The Nova does have the advantage in automatic transmission options, since a 200R4 is almost a drop in and gets you an overdrive that will let you street drive deeper gears. Same deal with modified newer overdrive automatics, getting a 700r4 or 4l60E to fit and work is easier than an AOD and probably easier than any Mopar option. Old school autos can all be about the same.

For a manual transmission the Mopar may edge the others out with an A833, unless you are swapping in newer stuff where the best Mopar option (Jeep bell and AX-15 or Supra trans) isn't nearly as easy as a Ford WC T-5 or GM T56.

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy SuperDork
5/23/14 10:08 p.m.
Junkyard_Dog wrote: 67 Comet will take a big block (390) easily, and 427+ with some shock tower work.

390 is the same overall as the 427/428, the 429/460 is a different block.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UberDork
5/23/14 10:24 p.m.

All three would suck as commuters, they would all handle like pigs on roller skates, but all could be had with a fun motor. For pure tire burning fun, Dart with a big block, followed by Nova with a 327, followed by a big block Falcon...(Comet is homely)

The big block Ford C6 combo is pretty joyless. 390 4 speed would be better, but they are still a heavy, slow revving engine without some good work.

Rob_Mopar
Rob_Mopar SuperDork
5/23/14 10:50 p.m.

Depends on potential for what? Drag car, pro touring, least likely to see another one at the cruise night?

'67 Dart suspension has better geometry than the other two stock, easier to upgrade without surgery. Bigger engine compartment than the other two. Going to '68 the Nova has some significant improvements, Dart is mostly the same as '67 with a better idler arm bracket. A '68 Nova would have the advantage of the most aftermarket support of your triad.

Jumping to '70, a Duster would have slightly better aerodynamics than the earlier cars. The roof is slightly narrower than the Dart, and I think the Nova & Comet. The wheelbase is a little shorter than the Dart, and the car is a little lighter. Would need to look up the other two. I suspect the '67 Nova would be a little lighter.

DCharger68
DCharger68 Reader
5/23/14 10:53 p.m.
Rob_Mopar wrote: Depends on potential for what? Drag car, pro touring, least likely to see another one at the cruise night? '67 Dart suspension has better geometry than the other two stock, easier to upgrade without surgery. Bigger engine compartment than the other two. Going to '68 the Nova has some significant improvements, Dart is mostly the same as '67 with a better idler arm bracket. A '68 Nova would have the advantage of the most aftermarket support of your triad. Jumping to '70, a Duster would have slightly better aerodynamics than the earlier cars. The roof is slightly narrower than the Dart, and I think the Nova & Comet. The wheelbase is a little shorter than the Dart, and the car is a little lighter. Would need to look up the other two. I suspect the '67 Nova would be a little lighter.

Let's just say potential for balls out drag racing mixed with a little bit of street driving

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