93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
6/9/15 8:43 p.m.

My Civic won't start. It cranks and cranks but the fuel pump won't prime and there is no spark. I replaced the ignition coil, distributor cap, rotor, spark plugs and wires, main relay and fuel pump (I already had all those parts except the IC).

Any ideas?

gearheadmb
gearheadmb Reader
6/9/15 8:50 p.m.

Is there 12v at the pump? If you lost power to the pump and the ignition I would guess that you blew one of those big fuses that Honda likes that has two phillips screws holding it in.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
6/9/15 9:03 p.m.

In reply to gearheadmb:

From what I understand if the ECU doesn't get ignition signal it won't send power to the fuel pump.

Also I am not sure what fuse you are talking about. I don't remember any fuses like that.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy PowerDork
6/9/15 9:20 p.m.

Find a process to test the signals from the distributor pickups, or just find another distributor.

Junkyard_Dog
Junkyard_Dog SuperDork
6/9/15 10:01 p.m.

Swap distributor for known good unit. Extremely common failure on those cars. If you noticed any "red dust of death" when replacing the cap it is toast.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
6/9/15 11:13 p.m.

In reply to Junkyard_Dog:

I didn't notice any. I will get a new dizzy and hope that fixed it.

gearheadmb
gearheadmb Reader
6/10/15 6:18 a.m.

In reply to 93EXCivic: Sorry, probably misremembering. It has been a while since i tinkered with a honda of that vintage.

tpwalsh
tpwalsh HalfDork
6/10/15 8:12 a.m.

Do the EG's have the same main relay issue the EF's do? Sounds like that.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
6/10/15 9:32 a.m.

In reply to tpwalsh:

They do but if it was a main relay it wouldn't crank. And I swapped it out as I had a spare.

wbjones
wbjones MegaDork
6/10/15 9:44 a.m.

is this a case of semantics ? … the "main relay" as I know it, is the one that controls the fuel pump … and needs the contacts re-solder (actually just some liquid flux and re-flow the solder that's there)

if it's bad, then it'll crank all day long (or until the bat. goes dead) just won't fire

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
6/10/15 11:30 a.m.

Too close to textbook main relay to not be.

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainrelayoperation/index.html

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
6/10/15 1:36 p.m.
wbjones wrote: is this a case of semantics ? … the "main relay" as I know it, is the one that controls the fuel pump … and needs the contacts re-solder (actually just some liquid flux and re-flow the solder that's there) if it's bad, then it'll crank all day long (or until the bat. goes dead) just won't fire

The relay right above the hood latch by the driver correct?

I changed that one. Plus I still have no spark either.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy PowerDork
6/10/15 1:39 p.m.

Main relay is under the dash, and it won't have any effect on spark.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
6/10/15 1:42 p.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: Main relay is under the dash, and it won't have any effect on spark.

This one right?

I replaced it with a brand new one. And if it doesn't effect the spark then that should point to it not being the problem I'd assume.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
6/10/15 1:57 p.m.
93EXCivic wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote: Main relay is under the dash, and it won't have any effect on spark.
This one right? I replaced it with a brand new one. And if it doesn't effect the spark then that should point to it not being the problem I'd assume.

The test is the three clicks on start up.

drainoil
drainoil Reader
6/10/15 5:54 p.m.

As for fuses, there should be some big ones mounted under hood pass side.

Uh before this issue started, the engine wasn't overheated by chance was it?

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
6/13/15 10:39 a.m.

In reply to drainoil:

I don't think it overheated. I sure don't remember it overheating. I drove it to Lowes and it wouldn't start when I went to left.

93EXCivic
93EXCivic MegaDork
6/13/15 10:41 a.m.

I pulled the distributor and one of the pins came out of the connector. How do I reinsert it?

DirtyBird222
DirtyBird222 UltraDork
6/13/15 5:20 p.m.

Sounds like the ignition fuse. Most likely a 50amper located under the hood. If that's blowing you have a short somewhere too which caused it to blow. If I'm wrong on this I'll buy you a beer but I'm 90% certain this is the issue you are having.

When you put the key in the ignition and switch it to accessory does anything happen? Lights on the dash? When you say the pump isn't priming and nothing else is happening?

My best suggestion is to trace the ignition wire and see where it's shorting out. I just had this issue on my 94 Accord. Ignition wire was chaffed and shorting out on the chassis.

http://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-del-sol-1992-2000-1/ignition-fuse-keeps-blowing-please-help-2901113/

dansxr2
dansxr2 Dork
6/13/15 6:28 p.m.

Hondas are prone to dizzy issues. Hope you get it lined out. I'd keep a spare main relay and a dizzy on hand at all times ;-). (Says the person who sat 6hrs beside the road 10 years ago with a dizzy that linked out in rural WV). Lol

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