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chada75
chada75 Reader
4/24/18 5:45 p.m.

A friend was selling his 1996 V-6 Camaro for $1,000. It's sadly gone now and it had a manual, too. Checking the SCCA Street class list, said car is allowed in H Street. I know that the Mini and Fist is the hot ticket, but has anybody ran an 4th Gen F body in H Street? How did you do? What you say?

Ransom
Ransom GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
4/24/18 5:46 p.m.

Mini is G street. Or at least the current gen is.

red_stapler
red_stapler Dork
4/24/18 5:49 p.m.
Ransom said:

Mini is G street. Or at least the current gen is.

2002-13 justa Coopers are in HS.

CyberEric
CyberEric Reader
4/24/18 6:19 p.m.

I've never heard or seen evidence of a Camaro actually running in H-Street.

Does it have to be the V6 version? These made like 200 hp right? And a quick google search says they weighed 3300 lbs. Not exactly the hot ticket on paper when a FiST makes about that much power and weighs 600lbs less. 

What are the tire width limitations?

I'm interested.

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
4/24/18 6:33 p.m.

No tire width limitations but you have to run on stock width wheels. What was the widest wheel that the V6 Camaro came with? 

chada75
chada75 Reader
4/24/18 6:37 p.m.

In reply to mazdeuce - Seth :

The ones on his was the 225/60/16 tire size. 

chada75
chada75 Reader
4/24/18 6:37 p.m.

In reply to CyberEric :

It's listed on the solo class list.

MrChaos
MrChaos GRM+ Memberand Dork
4/24/18 6:38 p.m.

In reply to mazdeuce - Seth :

8Jx16 ET55

TheRX7Project
TheRX7Project Reader
4/24/18 6:42 p.m.

In reply to mazdeuce - Seth :

16x8

https://www.wheel-size.com/size/chevrolet/camaro/1999/

81cpcamaro
81cpcamaro Dork
4/24/18 7:10 p.m.

I have a 99 Camaro V6 which I autoxed last month. It is bone stock, but it handled fairly well, even with 235/55-16 rock hard tires. With the 3.08 gears and autotragic trans, acceleration wasn't its strong point. 5-speed would help I would think, along with lower gears.  

Edit: here is a photo of it in action as it were: Camaro autox

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/24/18 7:37 p.m.

The V6 1LE was a semi-contender for a while many years ago. I’d have to presume it can no longer keep up or we’d see more of them out. 

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
4/24/18 7:37 p.m.

Tire size would be interesting. A 225 is probably the right width, but these use a tall tire, so depending on what sizes are available I bet you could run a 245 with a taller sidewall. not sure it would be faster though. I find this whole train of thought intriguing. 

NickD
NickD UltraDork
4/24/18 7:40 p.m.

I'd hold out for the post-refresh F-body to get the 3800 over the 3400.

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
4/24/18 7:41 p.m.

I like the idea of combing the option books for the ultimate old crappy v6 Camaro for autocross. 

I seriously love you guys. 

81cpcamaro
81cpcamaro Dork
4/24/18 7:54 p.m.

You could run the 245/50-16 tires that the V8 cars ran.  Also, the 1998-02 cars have the same 4 wheel disc brakes as the LS1. Plenty of stopping power with them.

CyberEric
CyberEric Reader
4/25/18 11:13 a.m.

In reply to mazdeuce - Seth :

I know, something about finding a good autocross car from the past is so great. 

I have the same thought about a first gen 4 cylinder Mazda 6 in H-Street. 

BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon SuperDork
4/25/18 11:14 a.m.

IIRC, all v6 cars after 1996 were the Buick 3.8, so some early fourth gens have the better engine.

I want to take one of these cars and give it the go kart treatment.

racerfink
racerfink UltraDork
4/25/18 11:18 a.m.
Pete Gossett said:

The V6 1LE was a semi-contender for a while many years ago. I’d have to presume it can no longer keep up or we’d see more of them out. 

4th gen Camaro never had a 1LE version of the V6.  It wasn’t introduced in a V6 version until the start of the 6th gens in 2016.

Pete Gossett
Pete Gossett GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/25/18 11:45 a.m.
racerfink said:
Pete Gossett said:

The V6 1LE was a semi-contender for a while many years ago. I’d have to presume it can no longer keep up or we’d see more of them out. 

4th gen Camaro never had a 1LE version of the V6.  It wasn’t introduced in a V6 version until the start of the 6th gens in 2016.

Maybe it wasn’t the 1LE RPO code then, but I know there was a V6 4th gen that received all the suspension goodies. It was discussed here before(that’s how I learned about it) and at least one person campaigned one at some bigger Solo events. 

Edit: A quick bit of googling found people discussing a Performance Pack on the 3.8 cars, and also a Y87 RPO. I’m not sure if that’s every option, but I suppose it’s a start. 

NickD
NickD UltraDork
4/25/18 12:31 p.m.
Pete Gossett said:
racerfink said:
Pete Gossett said:

The V6 1LE was a semi-contender for a while many years ago. I’d have to presume it can no longer keep up or we’d see more of them out. 

4th gen Camaro never had a 1LE version of the V6.  It wasn’t introduced in a V6 version until the start of the 6th gens in 2016.

Maybe it wasn’t the 1LE RPO code then, but I know there was a V6 4th gen that received all the suspension goodies. It was discussed here before(that’s how I learned about it) and at least one person campaigned one at some bigger Solo events. 

Edit: A quick bit of googling found people discussing a Performance Pack on the 3.8 cars, and also a Y87 RPO. I’m not sure if that’s every option, but I suppose it’s a start. 

Found this mention on Trans Am World: "With the new 3.8 V6, there was no need for the 3.4 liter engine, so it was dropped for 1996. Pontiac offered an optional 3800 Performance Package for the Base Firebird which added four-wheel disc brakes, dual exhaust, 3.42 axle ratio, limited slip differential, and alloy wheels." Sounds like if it's a V6 car with rear discs and dual exhaust, you've found your guy

81cpcamaro
81cpcamaro Dork
4/25/18 12:44 p.m.

The rear discs would be a sign on 1996-97 cars, 1998-02 all cars had 4 wheel discs, so look for the Y87 code on the drivers door.

Vigo
Vigo UltimaDork
4/25/18 9:36 p.m.

My opinion from driving them is that 3800/5spd fbodies are better than their hp/weight numbers suggest. They're quick enough and the handling is pretty good. Lots of potential as an autoX car, in my opinion. As far as classing? No clue. 

racerfink
racerfink UltraDork
4/26/18 9:28 a.m.

There’s a V6 Firebird out of Texas that runs WRL/Champcar endurance racing that does quite well.  You can see their facebook page at Pontini Racing (has a Martini Racing livery)

Slay40
Slay40 New Reader
9/29/23 10:12 a.m.

I know im a few years late but I run a 98 Camaro with the 3800 and i think 3.73 in the rear in H street. depending on the course i can keep up with the rest of the class fairly well, at least until the 22 civic sport shows up. also have wheels that are technically too big on spacers that are technically too big and a rear sway bar which I don't think is legal but nobody has said anything. and the way I see it, i dont have a huge advantage, it just gives me a fair shot

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
9/29/23 10:42 a.m.

Way back in the day, and maybe for just a few minutes, the V6 Camaro was a good G Stock car. JG, what were the particulars there? 

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