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Trackmouse
Trackmouse UltraDork
1/8/18 11:19 a.m.

I couldn’t sleep last night, and while awake, started dreaming about buying an old yota P/U, slapping a gotpropane.com kit on it, and a t3. 

Then some questions started filling my head. What’s the MPG (miles per tank?). What’s road law on this? Will I blow myself up? Should I mount a bbq in the bed too? What’s the best way to mount a tank out of sight? So many questions! Anyways, I’m sleepy. 

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UberDork
1/8/18 11:35 a.m.

100-110 Octane! Read about 10% lower mpg and similar power loss. But it’ll run upside down unlike a carb.

Trackmouse
Trackmouse UltraDork
1/8/18 11:44 a.m.
ebonyandivory said:

100-110 Octane! Read about 10% lower mpg and similar power loss. But it’ll run upside down unlike a carb.

That’s super good to know, someday I might take it through a corkscrew loop, or jump it, and in that instance, I’ll remember these words. 

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UberDork
1/8/18 11:49 a.m.
Trackmouse said:
ebonyandivory said:

100-110 Octane! Read about 10% lower mpg and similar power loss. But it’ll run upside down unlike a carb.

That’s super good to know, someday I might take it through a corkscrew loop, or jump it, and in that instance, I’ll remember these words. 

I remember this from the serious off-roaders that WOULD actually roll onto their sides or roof but more often need the engine to run at crazy angles. Something carbs couldn’t do. It was poor-mans’ fuel injection of the day.

 

gearheadmb
gearheadmb Dork
1/8/18 11:49 a.m.

You will want to remove the tank to fill it, like on a tow motor. So you will want it to be easy to remove. So if it needs to be out of sight I would put it in a toolbox. I did a little research on this years back when I was thinking about putting it on the jeep. I have no idea how to make it work with a turbo.

STM317
STM317 Dork
1/8/18 11:49 a.m.

This thing had a BBF, Paxton, and Propane tank

 

WonkoTheSane
WonkoTheSane GRM+ Memberand Dork
1/8/18 12:13 p.m.

I didn't look at the link, but were you using propane to spool the turbo for the gas engine?

NBraun
NBraun GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/8/18 12:23 p.m.

This isn't what you were looking for, but it is forced induction on propane. Might be able to get some ideas from it at least.

 

https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/1624587-vanilla-gorilla-lq4-xt80-97-rcsb-chevy-propane-update-track-times.html

Trackmouse
Trackmouse UltraDork
1/8/18 12:46 p.m.

http://www.gotpropane.com/p540.html

 I’m talking about using propane as the fuel for a 22R motor, and you can then turbocharge that engine because of the octane rating and the compression numbers on an old 22r are low. the turbo charger would work very well, and yes you can blow the propane through the turbo for a better mix. Numbers I’m coming up with looks like at about 10 psi the little engine might be putting down close to 200 hp. You can pick up an old 20r engine, slap a 22re head on it, and that will low compression as well. It’s the opposite of the old 22r block/20r head combo.

i can’t think of a better way to get 110 octane for $2.39 

bigdaddylee82
bigdaddylee82 UltraDork
1/8/18 2:38 p.m.

When I was a kid, my folks had an '82 Scottsdale with 327 dad swapped in.  It ran on propane.  It had a tank in the bed near the cab under a toolbox, could possibly been a tank/toolbox combo, but I think they were separate.  Imagine a painted white, not diamond plate, '80s tool box version of this:
 

 

I remember getting the tank filled.  It was big tank, not something you'd remove to fill.  Some dude would climb into the bed, and hook a hose up. 

 

Trackmouse
Trackmouse UltraDork
1/8/18 2:54 p.m.

In reply to STM317 :

Hey like, half those pics got photoberked

echoechoecho
echoechoecho Reader
1/8/18 3:25 p.m.

yes!! Ive done a ton of thinking and research on this subject, you want a boost referenced propane regulator, any will do just make sure it can flow enough gas for the HP levels you want. for safety you want a blow-through set up and the easiest way is to put the propane mixer(carb) inside a boost  box.  now I have a great idea and I'm pretty sure no one has done it yet: since propane is a liquid in the tank and absorbs heat when it drops in pressure to a gas you can instead of warming the regulator with engine coolant, you use a water to air intercooler to warm the regulator and cool down the intake charge at the same time, I would think you can get it way below ambient temperature. 

Trackmouse
Trackmouse UltraDork
1/8/18 6:00 p.m.

In reply to echoechoecho :

That’s pretty cool. Never thought about that! The regulator and total kit would just come from gotpropane.com. I figure I can get a cheap 2wd for 500$, the kit for 800$ (I’ve seen them used too) and then home bake the turbo setup with a chinacharger and some cheap crack pipes. Maybe I would splurge on the BOv...

the best part is I could blow the bottom end and just buy another sloppy 22r block to blow up again. All in a day. 

GTXVette
GTXVette Dork
1/8/18 6:48 p.m.

 I Pictured a Really Big Turbo Mounted in the bed Turned into a Propane Powered Jet Engine,  Oh Well

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/8/18 8:52 p.m.
Trackmouse said:

i can’t think of a better way to get 110 octane for $2.39 

Uh, e85?

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
1/8/18 9:00 p.m.

You planning on running over 300 HP?  If not, the bottom end will be just fine.

bentwrench
bentwrench Dork
1/8/18 9:22 p.m.

Do you have natural gas service at home?

Consider CNG You can fill up at home never go to a gas station again No gas tax!

Trackmouse
Trackmouse UltraDork
1/9/18 1:33 p.m.

In reply to bentwrench :

I do! I have an enormous below ground tank, I would still have to get a license in order to pump my own LP legally though. As far as E85 goes, I would love to run that, but that would require replacing new fuel system, running an aftermarket ECu,  and then getting tuning done at some shop. Which is way too much money to spend on a $500 truck. Plus, e85 is only  available at one gas station that is 25 miles from my house and is not open at all times of the day. With propane you just need a Wideband O2 sensor to monitor your a/f. The propane set up has adjustment for low and high

Trackmouse
Trackmouse UltraDork
1/9/18 1:34 p.m.

In reply to Dr. Hess :

Except the cast pistons...

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/9/18 1:50 p.m.

For e85 on a carb can't you just drill out the Jets? Maybe a new fuel pump if you run out of flow?Use a wideband if you must check your accuracy...

STM317
STM317 Dork
1/9/18 2:01 p.m.

In reply to Trackmouse :

Oh man, my bad! They show up for me, but I think I have a Firefox Plug-in installed that bypasses the stupid photobucket thing. I'll see if I can figure out a better way.

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
1/9/18 2:58 p.m.
GTXVette said:

 I Pictured a Really Big Turbo Mounted in the bed Turned into a Propane Powered Jet Engine,  Oh Well

Same. Are you as disappointed as me?

 

Sorry Trackmouse, I don't mean to offend but the heart wants what the heart wants, you know?

Trackmouse
Trackmouse UltraDork
1/9/18 4:04 p.m.

In reply to thatsnowinnebago :

Hey, I’d love to see a huge snail made into a jet pack for a truck!

ebonyandivory
ebonyandivory UberDork
1/9/18 4:05 p.m.

Engine Masters (David Freiburger and Steve Dulcich and Steve Brule) just did a Gas vs. E85 shootout.

They used Holley XP carbs. One set up for E85 and one for gasoline. Motortrend On Demand is worth the membership fee.

Robbie
Robbie GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
1/9/18 4:18 p.m.
ebonyandivory said:

Engine Masters (David Freiburger and Steve Dulcich and Steve Brule) just did a Gas vs. E85 shootout.

They used Holley XP carbs. One set up for E85 and one for gasoline. Motortrend On Demand is worth the membership fee.

Oh man I love that show. I better check it out!

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