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MG_Bryan
MG_Bryan Reader
11/21/11 7:05 p.m.
aussiesmg wrote: and every rotary ever built....

Aren't the side housings cast iron? Why else would racing beat sell thousands of dollars of aluminum housings?

wbjones
wbjones SuperDork
11/21/11 7:06 p.m.

Buick small block from the '60's

Woody
Woody GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/21/11 7:56 p.m.

As a result of my automotive tunnel vision, I failed to specify front engine / rear drive applications and I was thinking mainly of four and six cylinders. Nothing else existed to me at the time that I asked the question.

ScottRA21
ScottRA21 Reader
11/21/11 8:15 p.m.

Again, pretty much any Suzuki engine + proper trans from a Sami/kick/Vitara.

Some BMW 6s...

Nissan VQ V6s

Toyota GR series V6s

Ford Duratec 30 V6

Chrysler Pentastar V6s

Course, compactness is going to be up to you to determine...

ditchdigger
ditchdigger Dork
11/21/11 8:58 p.m.
novaderrik wrote: too bad no one makes and aluminum block/iron head engine like those awesome old Vega engines..

The Mercruiser marine 4cyl. 224CI. Aluminum block which held half a 460 V8 and used one of the ford cast iron heads. That is OK because aftermarket alloy heads for the 460 will pop right on.

I really want to know what one of these feels like in front of a 4spd.

bigdaddylee82
bigdaddylee82 Reader
11/21/11 9:05 p.m.

M90 Transmission from a 960 will allow you to use the 5 & 6 cylinders in a FR configuration, maybe the 4 cylinders too, not sure about them.

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tuna55
tuna55 SuperDork
11/21/11 9:41 p.m.
ditchdigger wrote:
novaderrik wrote: too bad no one makes and aluminum block/iron head engine like those awesome old Vega engines..
The Mercruiser marine 4cyl. 224CI. Aluminum block which held half a 460 V8 and used one of the ford cast iron heads. That is OK because aftermarket alloy heads for the 460 will pop right on. I really want to know what one of these feels like in front of a 4spd.

ME TOO!!!!! For Lemons...

MG_Bryan
MG_Bryan Reader
11/21/11 10:01 p.m.
tuna55 wrote:
ditchdigger wrote:
novaderrik wrote: too bad no one makes and aluminum block/iron head engine like those awesome old Vega engines..
The Mercruiser marine 4cyl. 224CI. Aluminum block which held half a 460 V8 and used one of the ford cast iron heads. That is OK because aftermarket alloy heads for the 460 will pop right on. I really want to know what one of these feels like in front of a 4spd.
ME TOO!!!!! For Lemons...

go here - http://www.jalopyjournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=256713&highlight=mercruiser&page=9

slantvaliant
slantvaliant Dork
11/21/11 10:25 p.m.

There has been at least one aluminum block / aluminum head Slant Six assembled. The aluminum block was optional for the first couple of years of production. Only a handful of the experimental aluminum heads escaped the factory. One found its way to the right guy.

TWIGGY

DaewooOfDeath
DaewooOfDeath HalfDork
11/21/11 10:33 p.m.

F20C, if you have 4 grand.

SR20 Nissans also. If you have a lot of wide but not a lot of tall, the VW aircooled boxers, Subaru 4s and even some of the old Porsche 6s are relatively affordable.

Canute
Canute New Reader
11/21/11 10:53 p.m.
MG_Bryan wrote: http://www.dartheads.com/products/aluminum-ford-small-block-8.html

Anyone have an idea how much an iron 5.0 weighs? The spec sheet for the Dart block says ~85lbs. Only $6,500, prepped, BTW.

novaderrik
novaderrik Dork
11/21/11 11:18 p.m.
ditchdigger wrote:
novaderrik wrote: too bad no one makes and aluminum block/iron head engine like those awesome old Vega engines..
The Mercruiser marine 4cyl. 224CI. Aluminum block which held half a 460 V8 and used one of the ford cast iron heads. That is OK because aftermarket alloy heads for the 460 will pop right on. I really want to know what one of these feels like in front of a 4spd.

is the Rochester carb stock?

fast_eddie_72
fast_eddie_72 SuperDork
11/21/11 11:58 p.m.
MG_Bryan wrote: Well if one wishes to go down that path, a lot of engines can have and aluminum block.

Ooooh. That would be awesome in my Capri.

MitchellC
MitchellC Dork
11/22/11 1:14 a.m.
Canute wrote:
MG_Bryan wrote: http://www.dartheads.com/products/aluminum-ford-small-block-8.html
Anyone have an idea how much an iron 5.0 weighs? The spec sheet for the Dart block says ~85lbs. Only $6,500, prepped, BTW.

You lost me at "only."

oldopelguy
oldopelguy Dork
11/22/11 6:43 a.m.

Strictly Aluminum or does magnesium count? As in AC VW and Porsche?

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson Dork
11/22/11 7:43 a.m.

Hillman Imp

Buick/Rover V8

DILYSI Dave
DILYSI Dave SuperDork
11/22/11 7:46 a.m.

Anything designed since 1980?

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
11/22/11 8:11 a.m.
Lesley wrote: How small is small? Mazda K8 1.8, KLZE 2.5.

The funniest part is that those motors are lighter than a Miata motor.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson Dork
11/22/11 8:17 a.m.
MG_Bryan wrote:
Capt Slow wrote: Didn't toyota make an aluminum version of the 4AGE for the formula Atlantic racing?
Well if one wishes to go down that path, a lot of engines can have and aluminum block. http://www.cosworthusa.com/store/pc/viewPrd.asp?idcategory=18&idproduct=28 http://www.dartheads.com/products/aluminum-ford-small-block-8.html

Funny how the V8 block is cheaper than the I4 isn't it?

corytate
corytate HalfDork
11/22/11 8:23 a.m.

hyundai theta 2 (gen coupe 2.0t)

joey48442
joey48442 SuperDork
11/22/11 9:25 a.m.
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
Lesley wrote: How small is small? Mazda K8 1.8, KLZE 2.5.
The funniest part is that those motors are lighter than a Miata motor.

The KLZE is lighter than a 1.6?

Wild!

Joey

92CelicaHalfTrac
92CelicaHalfTrac SuperDork
11/22/11 9:26 a.m.
joey48442 wrote:
92CelicaHalfTrac wrote:
Lesley wrote: How small is small? Mazda K8 1.8, KLZE 2.5.
The funniest part is that those motors are lighter than a Miata motor.
The KLZE is lighter than a 1.6? Wild! Joey

I don't think the 1.6 is any lighter than the 1.8 is it?

I know the KLZE is lighter than a BP.

Ranger50
Ranger50 Dork
11/22/11 9:53 a.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote: Funny how the V8 block is cheaper than the I4 isn't it?

Market viability. I can guarantee if I had to sell both of these and only these, I would EASILY sell the 302/351 block 3 or 4 times more often then the 4 popper.

BTW, I read ALL 37 pages of the Mercruiser thread and OMG, way too much noise over piddly little E36 M3.

rotard
rotard Reader
11/22/11 10:12 a.m.

LS6...

slantvaliant
slantvaliant Dork
11/22/11 10:15 a.m.
novaderrik wrote: too bad no one makes and aluminum block/iron head engine like those awesome old Vega engines..

How about the Cosworth Vega engine? All aluminum, EFI, headers, in the mid-70's?

Build it on a replacement block with iron liners, and you're there.

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