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Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
2/5/15 8:24 a.m.
irish44j wrote: What I really really want though is the RS drivetrain in THIS

If that was brought to the US, I'd be in line next to you.

OldGray320i
OldGray320i Reader
2/5/15 10:12 a.m.
alfadriver wrote: Maybe we need a 350hp, AWD (baiased toward the rear), 2 door station wagon.

Make it so, number 1! Tell me that wouldn't be wicked cool....

Jaynen
Jaynen Dork
2/5/15 10:32 a.m.

Is that a proper focus wagon?

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson UltimaDork
2/5/15 11:01 a.m.
Jaynen wrote: Is that a proper focus wagon?

That looks like the Mondeo wagon (Fusion here) that we don't get. They do get a Focus wagon in Europe and yes you can get an ST Wagon in Europe, they even do a Diesel ST Wagon, the price in the UK comes out to the equiv of $41.5K, not that includes 20% sales tax so it's really 'only'$35K for a Diesel Focus ST3 Wagon

alfadriver
alfadriver UltimaDork
2/5/15 12:09 p.m.
OldGray320i wrote:
alfadriver wrote: Maybe we need a 350hp, AWD (baiased toward the rear), 2 door station wagon.
Make it so, number 1! Tell me that wouldn't be wicked cool....

Ok- that would not be wicked cool. So I told you...

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
2/5/15 12:32 p.m.

I wonder if "up to 70% of the torque" means "the clutches in the rear diff give out at 200ft-lb driveshaft torque". So when at low throttle or maybe just peak torque in top gear, the diff can technically transmit 70% of the torque...

Don't forget that 70% of nothing is still nothing Open diffs constantly transmit 50% of the torque to each output, too, so if one wheel is off the ground and can take zero torque, the other wheel gets zero torque too.

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
2/5/15 12:49 p.m.

fifty
fifty HalfDork
2/6/15 9:16 p.m.

scottdownsouth
scottdownsouth Reader
2/6/15 11:54 p.m.

100% zero!

Feedyurhed
Feedyurhed SuperDork
2/7/15 6:04 a.m.
KSScotton wrote:
turtl631 wrote: I'm intrigued, AWD turbo hatch sounds fun but I don't want another EJ25 car after popping a stock Forester XT engine. Subaru always seems to have one deal breaker in their cars for me.
That's the best part of this! It isn't a Subaru

Ya it's a Ford. Nobody has ever had a problem with one of them.

DeadSkunk
DeadSkunk UltraDork
2/7/15 7:38 a.m.
jv8 wrote: Yeah let's just discuss how many doors attracts the hotties...

And that right there is the reason this 62 year old drives a 2 door. Why, just last week a woman at the gym favourably commented on my CooperS. Too bad she was old enough to be my mother.

alfadriver
alfadriver UltimaDork
2/7/15 8:10 a.m.

In reply to DeadSkunk:

Wait, you had an 80-something women giving you the eye for your CooperS?

So it spans generations, then!

Armitage
Armitage HalfDork
2/7/15 11:49 a.m.

I hear older women have more experience. Maybe you should avail yourself of the opportunities at hand :P

jv8
jv8 GRM+ Memberand New Reader
2/7/15 5:54 p.m.
DeadSkunk wrote:
jv8 wrote: Yeah let's just discuss how many doors attracts the hotties...
And that right there is the reason this 62 year old drives a 2 door. Why, just last week a woman at the gym favourably commented on my CooperS. Too bad she was old enough to be my mother.

Hey once my kids leave the house I'll be right there with you... Figure 11 more years so by age 56. I'll even move south so I can go only RWD 2-doors. I'm actually looking forward to that.

In the meantime the RS looks good for a Pittsburgh dad DD.

logdog
logdog GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
2/7/15 7:07 p.m.

I think it looks just like an Aston Martin.

Jaynen
Jaynen Dork
2/7/15 10:23 p.m.

One thing I heard today was the RS doesn't have a center diff/lsd does that mean all the front rear split is being done via brake adjustments electronically?

I have heard the for track use the Focus ST Ediff has been cooking brakes.

The0retical
The0retical HalfDork
2/7/15 10:58 p.m.
Jaynen wrote: One thing I heard today was the RS doesn't have a center diff/lsd does that mean all the front rear split is being done via brake adjustments electronically? I have heard the for track use the Focus ST Ediff has been cooking brakes.

The E-Diff is what steered me away from the ST. It looks like the RS is going to use some sort of clutch type system to control the torque distribution.

TopGear Interview said: That power feeds through a six-speed manual gearbox - no highfalutin flappy-paddle affair here - to a bespoke all-wheel drive system capable of continuously varying the torque balance both front-to-back (with a maximum 70 per cent reaching the rear), and across the rear axle. Rather than using a traditional limited slip differential or e-diff, the Focus apparently employs a unique mechanical solution. "We're using an all-wheel drive system we believe no one else is," says Ford Performance director Dave Pericak. "The RDU has a clutch at the front and twin clutches at the back, one on either side of the diff. So we can control the torque front-to-back but also side-to-side. We push the car around the corner, we don't slow the car down. "It's an all-new AWD system designed specifically for the RS. The capability is unbelievable. It'll shock you when you get behind the wheel. We didn't want to do a warmed-over version of the last RS. We wanted a new level."

Sounds pretty interesting. I wonder how long it'll take for someone to find out exactly how much power the system can handle. I give it less than 30 days before someone kills one.

Linky

Also since I hear Ford is talking about using this system in just about everything they can stuff it into. I'd like a Transit RS.

captdownshift
captdownshift GRM+ Memberand Dork
2/9/15 12:12 p.m.

you can't use brakes to control power output from front to rear.

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
2/9/15 1:24 p.m.
Jaynen wrote: One thing I heard today was the RS doesn't have a center diff/lsd does that mean all the front rear split is being done via brake adjustments electronically? I have heard the for track use the Focus ST Ediff has been cooking brakes.

Clutched output to rearend, no "differential".

But hey, it's the same thing WRC has!

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