DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
6/20/23 9:09 a.m.

My perpetual Challenge build Corolla has 15x10 wheels and would need a 275/35/15 tire. Hoosiers are $387 each and I have prior heart problems, so I went looking for American Racer tires. They list a 23.5/10/15 autocross tire at $257 each. Does anyone happen to have any experience with this brand ?

bmw88rider
bmw88rider GRM+ Memberand UberDork
6/20/23 9:13 a.m.

American Racer = McCreary Tire Company. It's not an unknown thing. I was actually surprised they made sports car stuff though as they are more known for roundy round stuff. I used their stuff on dirt back in the day religiously. 

Lof8 - Andy
Lof8 - Andy GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/20/23 9:16 a.m.

reach out to these guys for some lightly used Avons.  much cheaper and ultra sticky.

John Berget Tires

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
6/20/23 9:31 a.m.

In reply to bmw88rider :

I only heard of them when I went to the runoffs at Indy a few years ago and they had quite the operation set up to service the racers. I had no idea they were McCreary Tire Co.

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
6/20/23 9:34 a.m.

In reply to Lof8 - Andy :

I'll email them. I've been watching FB Marketplace for used Hoosiers , but they're always too narrow or too tall. Thanks for the contact.

 

J.A. Ackley
J.A. Ackley Senior Editor
6/20/23 9:58 a.m.

American Racer is fairly big in oval-track racing. It's really just them and Hoosier.

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/20/23 10:39 a.m.

Just so you know, a 245/40R15 on a 15x10 may not be a ridiculous stretch depending on the tire model - and slicks tend to be extra wide. See pics here:

Edit: Had a link showing 225s, these are 245s:

https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=2875663515877759&set=a.233056113471859

 

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
6/20/23 11:01 a.m.

This is at least five year old info, probably more like eight.  

I got the stock car tire supplier to bring me in a set of radial 205/50 15s 200 tw tires, and they sure didn't work on a road race car. 

They make perfectly good circle track slicks, though.

Edit: Which begs the question, if you are using 10 inch wheels, you could see whether left tires from a stock car would work.

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
6/20/23 11:36 a.m.

In reply to GameboyRMH :

There are two of the wheels with 245/40/15 Maxxis Victra VR-1 tires on them and they are stretched some, but not bad.

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
6/20/23 11:44 a.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

Left side stock car tires are readily available, new or used, but will be 26.5" diameter. The car is built around a tire of 23-24" diameter. Not ideal, but not an insurmountable difference.

gumby
gumby GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/20/23 12:22 p.m.

I spent many seasons autoXing on free, take-off left front pavement sprint car tires. All Hoosiers because that's what was available. 11/24.0-15, 2010 compound on 10" wide wheels.

They give up time on course relative to a real a7 tire built for the purpose, but they weren't terrible either. 

I'd imagine the American Racer equivalent would function similarly. 

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
6/20/23 1:07 p.m.

In reply to gumby :

Asphalt or dirt tires? I only ever see sprint cars on dirt around here. There's a good circle track flee market each spring in Ionia, Michigan , so that might be worth my time to go look.

 

triumph7
triumph7 HalfDork
6/20/23 1:10 p.m.

Too bad they don't make an F600/Fmod tire!

 

gumby
gumby GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/21/23 7:24 a.m.
DeadSkunk (Warren) said:

In reply to gumby :

Asphalt or dirt tires? I only ever see sprint cars on dirt around here. There's a good circle track flee market each spring in Ionia, Michigan , so that might be worth my time to go look.

Pavement. These guys were in Toledo last weekend

Looking at the American Racer catalog, their Modified/Sprint pavement tire equivalent to what I ran is listed with M28 compound. The Sports Car/Autocross tire you posted has the same specs, except an even softer SC2100 compound. Sounds interesting.

gumby
gumby GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/21/23 8:31 a.m.

Came across these the other day as well, had to go back and find the ad

Berck
Berck Reader
6/21/23 9:08 a.m.

Not sure if it's relevant, but I run American Racers on my vintage Formula Vee.  Half the price of the Hoosiers, and I actually like them better.  The sidewalls are pretty squishy compared to the Hoosiers, and they only hold air long enough for a 30 minute race.

DeadSkunk  (Warren)
DeadSkunk (Warren) UltimaDork
6/23/23 2:30 p.m.

........and problem solved. I went on the local Detroit Region autocross FB page and asked if anyone had any 275/35/15 sticky take-offs and two people responded in minutes with the appropriately sized Hoosier A7s........and at Challenge friendly prices, too.

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