pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/19/17 3:40 p.m.

So as I continue to shop for my next car (front runner still being the Mazda 3 3.5 manual) I'm exploring alternative options just to see what's out there. Realized that I haven't looked at Volvo's offerings in a while so decided to see what they have going on. And what I found is that certified used 2010-up S60s are going for silly cheap if you know where to look.

To put it bluntly, are these any good? I know the P2 platform at the turn of the century had some serious teething issues, how closely are these related? Obviously they are automatic only, which is what it is, but the Aisin units seem to be just about the best you can do for an auto. Are the 6-speeds decent? How about the newer 8-speed that's hooked up to the turbo four?

This particular example is pushing the price past what I want to spend by quite a bit, but egad what a gorgeous car. Shame the wagons seem to be worth so much more than the sedans.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltimaDork
2/19/17 6:01 p.m.

They have gotten progressively better with each generation. Its pretty darn hard to make a living off them now.

JoeTR6
JoeTR6 HalfDork
2/19/17 6:27 p.m.

They certainly look nice. From what I've heard/read, the more recent S60s are pretty good cars. I'd love to have an S60 Polestar wagon.

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/22/17 7:33 p.m.

Bump. Any more opinions or info? I'm giving some serious thought to that first car I posted, a CPO Volvo for $16k seems like a heck of a deal.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy UltimaDork
2/22/17 8:24 p.m.

Like any newer Euro, all you need to make it a good deal is a nearby shop capable of dealing with the overly complex electronics. Overall, the Volvo electronics are pretty robust.

etifosi
etifosi SuperDork
2/23/17 7:41 a.m.

Are these considered "Euro" still, or Chinese?

dculberson
dculberson PowerDork
2/23/17 8:02 a.m.

I think the cash funding them is Chinese but as far as I know all the hands designing and touching the cars are Swedish.

pointofdeparture
pointofdeparture GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
2/23/17 9:45 a.m.

In reply to dculberson:

That is my understanding. The Chinese are funding Volvo so they can reap the benefits for their own products and move upmarket, it seems they are being very careful not to push the Volvo brand down or ruin their reputation by cost-cutting. I think the current P3 platform was mostly designed pre-acquisition anyway.

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