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Saron81
Saron81 HalfDork
1/18/21 11:24 a.m.

Looking to get rid of these: 




Are they worth anything above scrap value? 
I think they're lithium ion? 
Who would buy these? 

I don't know anything about them that you can't see in the picture, lol. They're out of my Wheego. Related... do you thing the electric motor and/or chargers are worth anything to anyone? 
 

I know nothing about battery powered vehicles. 
still plan on taking all of the electric stuff out and putting a FWD subframe in the back, and adding some big tires to make a cheap off road toy. 
 

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/18/21 11:31 a.m.

How much suspension travel do you have for potential off road fun? I love the idea, but making an autocross demon may be far more successful of an endeavor (though height vs. width constraints may hinder that potential as well) 

 

 

As for the batteries, hit up Pasco. 

Saron81
Saron81 HalfDork
1/18/21 11:40 a.m.

In reply to captdownshift (Forum Supporter) :

I figured nobody would let me run this thing on sticky tires, lol. 

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/18/21 1:28 p.m.

In reply to Saron81 :

With wide enough tires and custom fabricated fender flares, you could possibly make an argument, but you'd also be likely plowing through wheel bearings. 

Woody (Forum Supportum)
Woody (Forum Supportum) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/18/21 1:57 p.m.

In reply to Saron81 :

Is that a Whip or a LiFe?

Rons
Rons GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/18/21 4:42 p.m.

What about pulling it all out and try to sell it complete for someone's weird but wonderful project: garden tractor? tug? Electric skiff? battery electric sifting plant?

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/18/21 4:57 p.m.

Those pictures bring up so much Challenge potential.  I might be willing to buy some/all of it if cheap enough.

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE Dork
1/18/21 11:24 p.m.

Go find Aging Wheels on youtube- he has one.

The batteries are all Lithium Iron-Phosphate cells that are individually sealed from CALB if I remember right; they're made for long consistent discharge and are pretty damn tough. Put a voltimeter on each terminal to see which ones still work; they'll be worth something to someone making RV upgrades.

The motor, controller and transaxle aren't worth much. It's sadly been discovered that the keyway that links the AC motor to the transaxle was never perfect when it was cast- you'll hear a "clunk" when you throttle up from the stator of the motor hitting the teeth. Eventually it'll fail by tearing that coupling in half. You could try selling it, but I know Thunderstruck EV has had one for sale for years at less than a grand and nobody has been interested. Probably best to either donate it and the controller to a college with an EV project or to ditch it on the cheap (like, $100 cheap) to get it to stop taking up space.

The charger is an odd case. Not sure what voltage and amperage it charges at, and I'm not sure if it has any capacity for level 2 220v charging either as the Wheego was one of the first EVs. If it has a range it can charge at (like say between 100- 140 volts), it could be sold. If it cant, probably not.

Saron81
Saron81 HalfDork
1/19/21 6:53 a.m.
Woody (Forum Supportum) said:

In reply to Saron81 :

Is that a Whip or a LiFe?

It's a Whip... the medium speed (35mph) not street legal one. Hence why I have no interest in making it work as an electric vehicle. It's basically a fancy golf cart. 

Saron81
Saron81 HalfDork
1/19/21 6:54 a.m.
Stampie (FS) said:

Those pictures bring up so much Challenge potential.  I might be willing to buy some/all of it if cheap enough.

The electric stuff? I'd make it cheap for you! 

Saron81
Saron81 HalfDork
1/19/21 6:55 a.m.

In reply to GIRTHQUAKE :

Thanks! Good info!!! 
(I need to figure out how to multi-quote...) 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
1/19/21 7:55 a.m.

Anybody know what voltage each of those cells is? Or the total system voltage?

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE Dork
1/19/21 8:11 a.m.
Saron81 said:

In reply to GIRTHQUAKE :

Thanks! Good info!!! 
(I need to figure out how to multi-quote...) 

Ah, if it's a Whip it *might* not have the motor problems that the LiFe had. For the motor, controller and transaxle it might be worth it to swap onto a mower or something similar.

Also you can really only multi-quote by physical copy+paste into a second window, so it's no big.

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE Dork
1/19/21 8:12 a.m.
Tom Suddard said:

Anybody know what voltage each of those cells is? Or the total system voltage?

If he can pop a battery out an post more pics- also of the motor and controller, charger and such- then I cen get an idea. Typical LiFePO4 cells run about 3.3v nominal but it can vary by manufacturer so i'll only know if they can be identified.

Saron81
Saron81 HalfDork
1/19/21 8:43 a.m.
Tom Suddard said:

Anybody know what voltage each of those cells is? Or the total system voltage?

I believe it's a 96v system, and each battery is approx 3v. Without disassembling it, I see they're labeled Voltronix TS-LPF200aha... which I assume means Li 200amp/hr.? 

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE Dork
1/19/21 10:32 a.m.

In reply to Saron81 :

Likely. Looking at their website, they only produce and work with Lithium iron phosphates and the LYP-180ah cels have similar looks and characteristics. Yours however, seem to no longer be in production.

https://voltronixusa.com/products/

I'd drop them a line and ask.

NOHOME
NOHOME MegaDork
1/19/21 11:03 a.m.

Build something like this with the cantilevered LSx out the back.

 

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/19/21 11:08 a.m.

Also interested in all the electric stuff potentially. Batteries included. 

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/19/21 11:22 a.m.

In reply to Saron81 :

Electic stuff including batteries.  I've sent you a PM.

GIRTHQUAKE
GIRTHQUAKE Dork
1/19/21 11:51 a.m.

EV CHALLENGE CAR

EV CHALLENGE CAR

captdownshift (Forum Supporter)
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
1/19/21 12:28 p.m.

In reply to GIRTHQUAKE :

I'm here for the challenge team name of "rapid uncontrollable discharge" 

 

I'd purchase a tee shirt 

Robbie (Forum Supporter)
Robbie (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/19/21 12:56 p.m.
captdownshift (Forum Supporter) said:

In reply to GIRTHQUAKE :

"rapid uncontrollable discharge" 

that's hot!

Ian F (Forum Supporter)
Ian F (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
1/19/21 1:31 p.m.
Tom Suddard said:

Anybody know what voltage each of those cells is? Or the total system voltage?

I did a little digging. 3.2V per cell. Should be 32 cells.  260AH capacity. The "RV use" thoughts had me curious.  But not really big enough for my needs.

Saron81
Saron81 HalfDork
1/19/21 2:11 p.m.
Robbie (Forum Supporter) said:

Also interested in all the electric stuff potentially. Batteries included. 

Trade the batteries for your GSXR stuff!!! 

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Director of Marketing & Digital Assets
1/19/21 2:18 p.m.
Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:
Tom Suddard said:

Anybody know what voltage each of those cells is? Or the total system voltage?

I did a little digging. 3.2V per cell. Should be 32 cells.  260AH capacity. The "RV use" thoughts had me curious.  But not really big enough for my needs.

Oooooh.

Stampie, if by chance you find yourself in possession of four extra cells, I'd be interested in a trip up to see you. I could use more capacity for my camper.

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