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Xceler8x
Xceler8x GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/11/09 1:43 p.m.

I'm reading Smokey Yunick's autobiography.

Freaking GRM gold right there. While reading it you'll realize the guy is purposefully offensive at times. For example instead of referring to a person's ethnicity he'll use a racial slur instead. In his world it seems women are worth chasing but that's about it.

The stories of early NASCAR, the testing, the parts, the work around's, the feud with the France family, are all worth reading.

In fact, I read a paragraph last night that foretold (or invented?) the car of tomorrow. The book was published in 2000.

Also, it's a hard read due to the guy could've really used a great editor. He will repeat himself or have sentence structure that's hard to follow.

But the information in there, the ingenuity, and just the talk about racing and working on cars is worth it all.

Carson
Carson HalfDork
5/11/09 2:06 p.m.

I read that when it came out. Some of those stories are fantastic! The 15/16th scale Chevelle is probably one of my favourites.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Production Editor
5/11/09 2:13 p.m.

It's unedited because he wanted it that way. He mentions not wanting to deal with that headache in the foreward, IIRC. He was indeed crass, but didn't strike me as mean-spirited. (I don't remember any N-bombs in the book, for instance.)

He's still got family in the area, and every once in a while one of the locals will point out a bit of "Smokey-ism" that still lingers in Daytona, like where his shop used to be or one of his former cars. Carbon Press is run by his daughter, who is a really sweet lady. FWIW, she attended the $2008 Challenge.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill HalfDork
5/11/09 4:04 p.m.

I was surprised they demoed the old shop., Somebody shoulda made a museum out of it and charged admission. I guess the land was worth too much.

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
5/11/09 4:08 p.m.

I found his stories on flying B-17s in WWII to be fascinating. What an incredible life Smokey led. I'm just bummed that he passed just before I moved to Daytona. It would've been really cool to have met him.

As Tom said, his daughter Trish now publishes his book, and others under the Carbon Press title. (Carbon was one of Smokey's dogs) They have a book about Fireball Roberts that is pretty eye opening as well, but not nearly as extensive as Yunick's autobiography.

I drive past Smokey's old shop daily (it's right down the street from the GRM headquarters) Sometimes late at night, if you are walking past the old shop, you can hear the wail of race engines that were silenced long ago. Ok, maybe that's just in my mind!

I can't recommend "Best Damn Garage in Town" enough. If you are interested in the beginnings of NASCAR, or the INDY 500 in the 50s and 60s, or just want to read an incredible, uniquely American story, you must read this book.

The fact that it is full of grammatical errors, and obscene language just makes it all that more enjoyable for me. You know that the stories are straight from the "horse's mouth"

more info here:

www.carbonpressonline.com

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
5/11/09 4:11 p.m.
spitfirebill wrote: I was surprised they demoed the old shop., Somebody shoulda made a museum out of it and charged admission. I guess the land was worth too much.

Bill,

They sold off the property and demoed the shop because Smokey wanted it that way. He saw all the work and headache that his friend Don Garlits has had to deal with in running his museum, and Smokey wanted no part of it. He didn't want his family to have to deal with it either.

The front part of his shop still stands. (where the Truck dealership used to be) Also, the frame for his sign "The Best Damn Garage in Town" is still there. Someone really should grab it.

spitfirebill
spitfirebill HalfDork
5/11/09 4:12 p.m.
Joe Gearin wrote:
spitfirebill wrote: I was surprised they demoed the old shop., Somebody shoulda made a museum out of it and charged admission. I guess the land was worth too much.
Bill, They sold off the property and demoed the shop because Smokey wanted it that way. He saw all the work and headache that his friend Don Garlits has had to deal with in running his museum, and Smokey wanted no part of it. He didn't want his family to have to deal with it either. The front part of his shop still stands. (where the Truck dealership used to be) Also, the frame for his sign "The Best Damn Garage in Town" is still there. Someone really should grab it.

Thanks for the info.

ncjay
ncjay New Reader
5/11/09 5:22 p.m.

I found his book on tape and listened to it on a long road trip. I was lucky enough a long time ago to sit in on a lecture he was doing at Charlotte Motor Speedway on spark plugs. He had a way of breaking through the technical crap and explaining things in english so you could understand it. Amazing person. They just don't build 'em like Smokey anymore.

Xceler8x
Xceler8x GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/11/09 6:19 p.m.
ncjay wrote: I found his book on tape and listened to it on a long road trip. I was lucky enough a long time ago to sit in on a lecture he was doing at Charlotte Motor Speedway on spark plugs. He had a way of breaking through the technical crap and explaining things in english so you could understand it. Amazing person. They just don't build 'em like Smokey anymore.

Would've loved to have been there for that.

I bet you guys in the GRM office are steeped in some smokey-isms being in Daytona and all.

rmarkc
rmarkc New Reader
5/11/09 7:38 p.m.

Great book, I read it a couple of years ago.

I live in the middle of NASCAR country and can't stand it but I love to hear the stories from the old timers. This book is chock full of them plus war time tales, south american adventures and corporate business tales. Every tale is told with no political correctness filter in place.

I loved this book. I need to get it back from my friend and read it again.

Appleseed
Appleseed HalfDork
5/11/09 9:18 p.m.

I've read that book. Twice. Need to read it again.

I've always liked his Chevelle and the Camaro. Probably the most famous cars to never have won a race. The fear those cars carried.

Yunicking the rules: "You didn't say I couldn't do it."

nickel_dime
nickel_dime Dork
5/12/09 7:21 a.m.

I loved the book but was a little disappointed it didn't include the Trans Am Camaro. I really wanted to learn more about that car.

I heard a story about a guy that bought the Camaro. When he was restoring it he'd start laughing everytime he'd find another one of Smoky's little tricks.

Xceler8x
Xceler8x GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/12/09 8:55 a.m.
nickel_dime wrote: I heard a story about a guy that bought the Camaro. When he was restoring it he'd start laughing everytime he'd find another one of Smoky's little tricks.

He should've left them in place! Tell me he did...

slantvaliant
slantvaliant Reader
5/12/09 9:15 a.m.
nickel_dime
nickel_dime Dork
5/12/09 10:58 a.m.

Thanks

tyunick
tyunick
5/12/09 11:16 a.m.

Why the shop was demolished?
It was pure and simple what he wanted. He was good buddies with Don Garlits and had seen just how much time, money and effort it took to run that museum. He was also a very secure guy and figured his accomplishments and contributions would stand on their own. So, he left explicit instructions on exactly how the property was to be sold. He said "Don't make no @#@%^% shrine!"

Why is his book profane, redundant, enormous...? He formed Carbon Press to be sure his book was done exactly the way he wanted. He wanted you to feel as if you were sitting on the porch talking. So he repeats himself, uses bad language and Smokey-isms, talks a good deal more sex than is usually found in a racing book, and speaks plainly of Bill Clinton, the Frances and our local politicians. That was Smokey.

Cheating? He didn't feel he cheated. He was a master of reading between the lines. If it plainly said do not do X, he didn't. But if Y wasn't mentioned, he felt it was fair game.

As Smokey's daughter, it makes my day to see you all remember him and some of his contributions. Please don't let me stop you!

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
5/12/09 12:52 p.m.

Thanks for the inside scoop Trish!

I'm still tempted by the old sign everytime I pass the old shop. One of these nights........

Xceler8x
Xceler8x GRM+ Memberand Dork
5/12/09 1:36 p.m.
tyunick wrote: Why the shop was demolished? It was pure and simple what he wanted. He was good buddies with Don Garlits and had seen just how much time, money and effort it took to run that museum. He was also a very secure guy and figured his accomplishments and contributions would stand on their own. So, he left explicit instructions on exactly how the property was to be sold. He said "Don't make no @#@%^% shrine!" Why is his book profane, redundant, enormous...? He formed Carbon Press to be sure his book was done exactly the way he wanted. He wanted you to feel as if you were sitting on the porch talking. So he repeats himself, uses bad language and Smokey-isms, talks a good deal more sex than is usually found in a racing book, and speaks plainly of Bill Clinton, the Frances and our local politicians. That was Smokey. Cheating? He didn't feel he cheated. He was a master of reading between the lines. If it plainly said do not do X, he didn't. But if Y wasn't mentioned, he felt it was fair game. As Smokey's daughter, it makes my day to see you all remember him and some of his contributions. Please don't let me stop you!

This has got to be the coolest forum ever.

Thanks for commenting Trish. I'm enjoying the hell out of reading this book.

Tom Heath
Tom Heath Production Editor
5/12/09 1:46 p.m.
Joe Gearin wrote: Thanks for the inside scoop Trish! I'm still tempted by the old sign everytime I pass the old shop. One of these nights........

Double thanks, Trish. Always good to hear from you!

I'll bring the bolt cutters and a boombox with the "Mission: Impossible" theme.

It would look awesome in the Jungle room.

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
5/12/09 1:58 p.m.

Oh the sign will need more than bolt cutters.....think battery powered sawzawl.

and it is the Safari room! Elvis had the Jungle room, and I'm nowhere near that cool!

bigwrench
bigwrench Reader
5/12/09 3:07 p.m.

Trish, I grew up reading his articles in Popular Mechanics. One of the highlights of my life was meeting him at PRI and getting to spend a little time listening to him. I am happy the dyno is at Garlits. He was the Godfather of Grassroots engineering. He had such a questioning mind of why not. Where was the shop. i was told it was over by the BMW motorcycle shop. Sometime i would like to meet you also. thanks

Joe Gearin
Joe Gearin Associate Publisher
5/12/09 3:38 p.m.

Bigwrench,

Smokey's old shop is just North of Mason/ Seabreeze on Beach street. It used to be on the corner, Kittycorner from the Town Line bar. The property went from Beach, all the way back to the river. His working shop was closer to the river, and the Truck dealership (Still standing) had frontage on Beach St.

This is just South of the Marina Grande condo complex.

aircooled
aircooled SuperDork
5/12/09 4:03 p.m.

Here is a bit of a story from a guy that used to work with Mickey Thompson (who Smokey was very competitive with), VERY interesting stuff, especially the header holes:


Of course Smokey’s Cameros would have to be inspected by USAC since they were going to certify any records that might be set. To qualify for the records he was going after the cars had to be pretty close to what was going to be available to potential Chevy customers. The first car he presented to them for inspection was a “ringer”, it was highly modified, front suspension A- arms made from aerodynamic tubing, and other very obvious components that really got the USAC inspectors stirred up. They declared it inappropriate, and disqualified it. This was the “show them something really illegal”, and then they would focus on that when inspecting the other cars, and they wouldn’t notice other less conspicuous mods. This was a ruse that most people I knew in racing used to some extent. It was kind of a “hide in plain sight” thing. The other cars were determined to be within the rules and allowed to be used. Smokey would take cars out to the salt and make a few passes, probably selecting gear ratios, changing springs, shocks, etc. based on input from the drivers. He would bring them back to the Texaco station and he and his crew would do what needed to be done. After a couple of days Mickey showed up to have a look at how things were going. He looked the cars over, and when Smokey was tuning an engine, he would look over Smokey’s shoulder to see what he was doing. Smokey didn’t seem to mind, he just let Mick be Mick. Mickey noticed that about an inch from the exhaust flange on the exhaust headers there was a small hole drilled in each pipe, and asked Smokey what they were for, and Smokey ignored the question. Mickey was going back to Long Beach the next day, and he got me off to the side and asked me if I knew what those holes were for. I told him that I had not even noticed them. He told me to find out about these holes and call him after he got home. Mick was real sure that this was one of Smokey’s “secrets”. A couple of days later one of the guys at Mickey’s shop called me and asked what the hell was going on up there, Mickey had them drilling holes in the headers on the “mule” motor on the dyno. They would drill holes and run the motor, and then weld them up, and drill them in another place, and on and on. No matter where they drilled the hole it made no change in the motor on the dyno. About an hour after I had received this call I heard Smokey up one of the engines, and he was leaning over, looking at each exhaust pipe, and reving the engine up, showing no mercy. I figured that if he kept this up that baby was going to blow. Shortly he shut it off, and started tinkering with the carburator. I cruised over, and looked at the engine, and spotted the holes in the pipes, and said, “Smokey, what are those holes in the headers for?” He got a big grin on his face, turned to me and said, “Mickey asked me about that, and I didn’t give him an answer.” He chuckled a little, and said, “It’s driving Mick nuts, isn’t it?” I told him yeah, he’s got the guys at the shop drilling holes all over the headers on the dyno engine, trying to find out what your secret is. He looked me in the eye, and had a real serious look on his face, and said, “Larry, I’m going to tell you but don’t ever tell Mickey.” He explained that when he reved the engine up, he would look in those holes to see if the exhaust flame was the same color in each cylinder to verify that he had the jetting in he carb right. Simple as that! I never, ever told Mickey!


The above will likely appear in a book at some point, I will certainly let everyone know as soon as I hear about it being published.

Was that in the book?

I put this story up previously and someone noted that there is museum somewhere with one of Smokey's engines in it with the header holes. They had no idea what the holes were for either!

Appleseed
Appleseed HalfDork
5/12/09 4:24 p.m.

Man o man! You never know who you'll meet on the board. Thanks for posting.

Jensenman
Jensenman SuperDork
5/12/09 5:47 p.m.

I remember the 'Say, Smokey...' columns from PM as well. Trish, thanks for popping in!

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