Biggest story from Daytona: DW's suit jacket

Wall-e wrote: In reply to GTXVette: I don't think removing the plates is going to fix anything. It will be the same pack just faster. The cars are far too even and durable now. I think the five minute clock is about the dumbest thing I've seen in a while. First more than one championship has been decided because someone pieced a car back together and picked up spots early in the season but also because sitting on pit road working on a car is far more dangerous than working behind the wall. It doesn't look bad at Daytona because pit road is wide open but trying to repair something serious at a teach like Bristol or Martinsville is asking for trouble. I've been hit by a car before while trying to hack off a fender and it stings quite a bit.

yea you are right,I miss the day's of some one Lapping the Field tho... I have an Idea though, go back to Lapped cars to the back on restarts and if in Segments put the leaders in reverse order at the back for the start of the next segment like short track does.then only the strong survives,and the best win(??)

Dr. Hess wrote: I thought brother Kurt Busch was the one that needed to mature and Kyle was the one that had his E36 M3 together? Did they switch? Wasn't Kurt the one busted for DWI once and driving that Lexus super car "over the speed limit" another time?

Nope that was Kyle re the lexus

Kurt, on the other hand, had some "girlfriend" issues a while back. I don't remember the specifics but it seemed like a jilted lover kind of thing that turned into a bit of a nasty spat.

I'd love to see them run on harder compound tires, dirty the cars up aerodynamically, and remove the restrictor plates.

Then, let them run for 500 miles and see who wins. No gimmicks, no "debris on the track"------just racing. I'm most impressed by displays of car control skills. This formula would have them hunting for traction, and sliding frequently. The driver who displayed the most skill would have the best chance at winning......imagine that!

Sort of like A.J. Foyt and Fireball Roberts. They didn't always have the best equipment, but they made whatever they were in faster.

About the restrictor plates, I remember years ago Rusty Wallace was talking about testing they did at one of the big tracks without the plate. He said the car was getting up to 230+ and that it was scary enough with just himself out there. Putting 40 other cars out there all doing that and you're just asking for trouble I would think.

Personally, I'm not a big fan of the plate races but the plates are there to keep the cars out of the grandstands. That seems important to me. Everything else that's been played with on the cars to accomplish the same thing has had an even worse impact on the racing than the plates do (tandem racing anyone?). I'd like to see them change the two tracks that need them but the traditionalist would have even bigger conniptions then they do now.

In reply to fasted58:

As I read your post, I was thinking, "Everybody gets a trophy"

I say get rid of all the things that slow them down and let them go as fast as possible. If there is anyone left after 500 miles they win, otherwise nobody does.

put a "Spoiler" out back so big that NO Shock Package can get down out of the air and a front end that looks like a Stock--Car, Hmm, ya know at least some traction on the straights and a bunch of Areo Drag and then the restrictors could get tossed. Buddy Baker went 230 at Talladega in 65 with a hemi dodge but then it took a roots blower to push it that Fast, Those were Stock cars made into Race cars and Racing was Racing

Make Daytona and Talladega into flat tracks.

You can still push a dirty old brick of a car pretty fast without a plate.

Joe Gearin wrote: I'd love to see them run on harder compound tires, dirty the cars up aerodynamically, and remove the restrictor plates. Then, let them run for 500 miles and see who wins. No gimmicks, no "debris on the track"------just racing. I'm most impressed by displays of car control skills. This formula would have them hunting for traction, and sliding frequently. The driver who displayed the most skill would have the best chance at winning......imagine that! Sort of like A.J. Foyt and Fireball Roberts. They didn't always have the best equipment, but they made whatever they were in faster.

This x1000. There's no logical reason NASCAR can't slow these cars down and take the plates off at the same time. They could easily make it so that with the power they have, they can hit 200+mph on the straights, but if they don't slow to 170 in the corners, they spin. See Pocono as an example. It's as big as Daytona, yes it has flatter turns, but it's still a huge track. They hit 205 at the end of the front straight, but ain't a snowball chance in hell you can go through turn 1 that fast, and it makes good racing. Problem is they won't do something like that for Daytona...big wrecks make TV highlights. At least the "real" season gets started this weekend in Atlanta.