bttc cloning for the street

In reply to turboswede:

I was talking a bone stock Stratus to get to touring car level.

There were quite a few TC Camrys out there...

This can't end well...

It's Touring Cars. It's part of the charm!

I'd just freshen the suspension with rubber bushings throughout, maybe look at a set of nice aftermarket seats that aren't all bling/JDM nonsense, perhaps a stiffer set of anti-sway bars and some braided flex lines for the brakes. Then I'd look into a stock location speaker upgrade and XM or Sirius radio and keep driving it.

David S. Wallens wrote: Maybe one day we'll have to do an article on the old Super Touring cars. Lots of our friends were involved in that series--Donohue, Randy Pobst, Peter Cunningham, TC Kline, Walt Puckett. I want to say the cars made 300 horsepower from 2.0 liter while on pump gas. (Someone may want to check me on the gas requirement.)

I would love to see such an article.

For some reason, I first thought of the Peugeot from the original Taxi.

I associate BTCC style with late 90's European stuff.

While looking for a picture of that 406, I found this. Ooo, yum. One of the prettiest coupe shapes ever, racerfied.

Keith, that looks even more like an R/C car than most Touring Cars do.

Appropriate place for a reference

Top Gear 50yrs of BTCC segment

David S. Wallens wrote: Maybe one day we'll have to do an article on the old Super Touring cars. Lots of our friends were involved in that series--Donohue, Randy Pobst, Peter Cunningham, TC Kline, Walt Puckett. I want to say the cars made 300 horsepower from 2.0 liter while on pump gas. (Someone may want to check me on the gas requirement.)

That would be rad.

The yellow Neuspeed Accord that Randy drove is one of my favorite racecars ever.

Dusterbd13 wrote: please do that article. with LOTS of pictures. or online content. lots of it., the more i google, the more i love what i see.

Yes, please.

Dusterbd13 wrote: what id like this discussion to center around is the elements that stand out to you other than the graphics, of what make these cars look so much better than their normal pedestrian counterparts. theres some qualities that i cant seem to put my finger on that make the look.

I think this guy nailed it:

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: The reason the BTCC cars look like that is that they have a purposeful reason for the changes.

These cars have a unity of purpose that has everything they can change focused on going faster. Everything about them that is open to change - the wheel combination, stance, etc - has been pushed as far in the direction of maximum performance as it will go.

Ranger50 wrote: In reply to turboswede: I was talking a bone stock Stratus to get to touring car level.

Uh, that's what they started with for the NATCC cars.

Here's some moving pictures goodness. Includes Ron Searle in one of the Camrys above.

This one:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwBRpxbxRGE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtCpS0GOuZ4

Here's an awesome site:

http://www.supertouringregister.com/gallery/

Old ad for a never raced 96 Accord.

http://www.nasaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=19714

jstein77 wrote: This can't end well...

found some footage - around 5:40

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgoi-xHGAR4

...btw, Nissan Primera FTW

Why not play to the Camry's real racing heritage, You know, V8, carb, rwd...

very good chance of bringing a BTCC replica to the 2012 GRMC